ISIS strikes again in Belgium

[NuMetalManiak]

At least 30 people killed and several wounded in Brussels, ISIS claims responsibility

Apparently they are from the same network that caused the carnage in Paris as well.

[Gez]

Isis strikes again? When will ancient mythology stop plaguing us?



I expect this thread will fare as well as its predecessors.

[kuchitsu]

Why not bomb government buildings or something? What did the regular civilians do? If they targeted politicians instead, they could even become popular among some people.

[Doomkid]

They're lunatics - Just look at the horseshit they believe in, logic isn't gonna make it through their impenetrable skulls.

[Master O]

Doomkid said:

They're lunatics - Just look at the horseshit they believe in, logic isn't gonna make it through their impenetrable skulls.

Unfortunately, the only thing that will stop them ... is Death. They are so thoroughly brainwashed by this extremist nonsense that nothing anyone says or does will convince these people otherwise.

[Clonehunter]

Working a night shift last night, I knew a great night was up ahead when the news was reporting Belgium bombings at 3 AM, followed by the unrelated story of a little girl and her mother being stabbed to death. A bloody Tuesday, apparently.

[Quast]

kuchitsu said:

they could even become popular among some people.

They do not want this.

[dew]

Master O said:

Unfortunately, the only thing that will stop them ... is Death. They are so thoroughly brainwashed by this extremist nonsense that nothing anyone says or does will convince these people otherwise.

How about stopping the salafistic imams so generously sponsored by our friends from Saudi Arabia that do indeed seed this extremistic nonsense into the brains of young, disgruntled, unemployed, poor, undereducated and bored young Muslims? Maybe even change the predicament of these jihadists before they "radicalize" themselves? Ah, sorry for anti-neoliberal heresies.

[Master O]

dew said:

How about stopping the salafistic imams so generously sponsored by our friends from Saudi Arabia that do indeed seed this extremistic nonsense into the brains of young, disgruntled, unemployed, poor, undereducated and bored young Muslims? Maybe even change the predicament of these jihadists before they "radicalize" themselves? Ah, sorry for anti-neoliberal heresies.

While that is also a good idea, if those particular Muslims already become radicalized, it's already too late at that point, which was my point.

[dew]

Well, if the plan is just to play whack-a-mole with terrists without a long-term strategy on eradicating radical anti-system elements, then I suggest a wide array of surveillance cameras, police checkpoints and random searches. Also zero electronic privacy, that'll show those extremists.

Sorry for scathing sarcasms, but all the security experts have warned about this for quite some time now - the lone wolves, the sleeper cells, the radicalized 2nd/3rd gen immigrants are impossible to catch reliably. If we do not change some principal issues, we'll have to learn to live with attacks on either our lives or our freedoms. Most probably both.

[Quast]

dew said:

Sorry for scathing sarcasms, but all the security experts have warned about this for quite some time now - the lone wolves, the sleeper cells, the radicalized 2nd/3rd gen immigrants are impossible to catch reliably. If we do not change some principal issues, we'll have to learn to live with attacks on either our lives or our freedoms. Most probably both.

So, nuke mecca and medina or what? How does one go about limiting or eradicating the influence of dangerous people protected by the unmentionable and untouchable house of saud?

[Gez]

Quast said:

So, nuke mecca and medina or what?

Daesh's ideology of radical iconoclasm would be just fine with that. Wahhabi have absolutely no qualm about destroying ancient monuments, including Islamic holy sites, because it's all idolatry for them. The Saudi are the first offenders.

http://time.com/3584585/saudi-arabia-bulldozes-over-its-heritage/
http://www.rense.com/general67/mecca.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites_in_Saudi_Arabia

[DeathevokatioN]

RiP, they never should have been let to flood Europe en masse in the first place, with the raping/groping spree that's been happening since new years (see Cologne) and gangs that have been prowling the streets harassing and raping women; European women haven't been allowed to feel safe to move freely at night either. I understand that it's not all of them etc etc etc bla bla bla, but it's ALL Europeans that have to endure a future that's less safe and less free and a future where more terrorist bombings are going to claim the lives of thousands of innocent civilians.

It seems like reggressives have been in damage control mode since the beginning of this year, looking forward to TYT covering this bomb attack, especially when you look at their last "masterpiece".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhQ6YmYzPY

[Doomkid]

The horrible shit that's been going down in Germany the last month is.. Well, horrible, and many people seem to be content to stick their heads in that sand about it rather than reading into it and actually trying to form an objective opinion and see what other countries can learn from this phenomenon.

With that said, I don't like the "they" blanket statement fitting refugees and ISIS into one bundle - The refugees come from a hellhole and have, on average, limited education, and indeed many of them are starting fights, molesting women, and all the rest - But we have to be fair here, there's a big leap from starting fights to being a literal member of ISIS.

Many refugees are the way they are because of the conditions in which they were raised, and you just gotta love how literally no effort to actually assimilate these people into a new culture was made, they just were literally dumped in and sent on their way, and expected to magically just be ready to behave like anyone else raised in a relatively calm 1st world country. It's pretty goddamn stupid. Still, most of these people were raised in barbaric conditions, but that doesn't make them all members of ISIS - It's a bad association for people to be making, if you ask me.

dew said:

How about stopping the salafistic imams so generously sponsored by our friends from Saudi Arabia that do indeed seed this extremistic nonsense into the brains of young, disgruntled, unemployed, poor, undereducated and bored young Muslims? Maybe even change the predicament of these jihadists before they "radicalize" themselves? Ah, sorry for anti-neoliberal heresies.

This sounds like a great first step. You gotta love how people want to bomb the symptoms and not the cause.

[darknation]

ROCK AND LOAD
BELGIUM BEEN BLOWED
IN AIRPORTS
MUSLIMS EXPLODE

[DooM_RO]

Good to know this won't affect my country. We are luckily too insignificant.

[dew]

Quast said:

How does one go about limiting or eradicating the influence of dangerous people protected by the unmentionable and untouchable house of saud?

That's actually a very good question. There's a number of them you could just deport as undesirables, because they're non-citizens. The domestic ones that "merely" got themselves educated in the art of hatemongering by the Saudis are a bit of a problem. My solution would be to treat salafism as a hostile, extremist ideology and ban it from public influence accordingly (Europe already has no qualms about banning offensive ideologies, unlike Murca). Germany and Sweden are particularly benevolent in this regard - while recognizing the movement as dangerous and undesirable, they let the Saudis support and fund their local branches. Before all this violence and immigration erupted, there were plans for building opulent mosques for salafists, even.

Then there's the other, long-term part about giving poor people from ghettos jobs and education, but I'll readily admit that's where things get really out of hand, heh.

[printz]

DooM_RO said:

Good to know this won't affect my country. We are luckily too insignificant.

Any country may be attacked just to prove a point.

[Lila Feuer]

kuchitsu said:

Why not bomb government buildings or something? What did the regular civilians do? If they targeted politicians instead, they could even become popular among some people.

Because the point of terrorism is to make you feel unsafe 24/7 and live in fear.

[Li'l devil]

Cyanosis said:

Because the point of terrorism is to make you feel unsafe 24/7 and live in fear.

Yeah, and it works. Even though I live in a city terrorists probably won't target (because it's a shithole), I'm now afraid to go to public places.. Good job, terrorists.

[kuchitsu]

I dunno, is terrorism still scary? I was reading a book about terrorism in Russia in the 19th century, and it seems like even back then people were saying things like "We became desensitized to terrorism... It just don't surprise or scare people anymore, that's how much we are used to it. It became a norm." That was more than 100 years ago, almost 150 now. Somehow I don't really feel the fear. Maybe because I don't have a wife or kids to worry about.

[DELETE-THIS-ACCOUNT]

kuchitsu said:

I dunno, is terrorism still scary? I was reading a book about terrorism in Russia in the 19th century, and it seems like even back then people were saying things like "We became desensitized to terrorism... It just don't surprise or scare people anymore, that's how much we are used to it. It became a norm." That was more than 100 years ago, almost 150 now. Somehow I don't really feel the fear. Maybe because I don't have a wife or kids to worry about.

So what, you still have yourself to worry about, no? I think the average person doesn't want to constantly wonder if the bus station their sitting at to go to work is going to suddenly fucking explode. Or if their family member or loved one is going to blow up on a bus or train.

However, there isn't anything wrong with being scared, just so long as you don't back down. They want the fear to cause submission. That's the end goal, as long as people don't back down, they will have failed, despite the lives lost.

[printz]

Think of it like this: you're like a prey. You can die without knowing it, or you can live to your 90s. Hope that the predators don't target you.

[kuchitsu]

Aren't chances of getting hit by a car or something like that higher anyway? We get a few attacks a year. It's not that horrifying...

[Kontra Kommando]

printz said:

Hope that the predators don't target you.

[Doomkid]

Kontra Kommando said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89pc92MfuQ

LMAO! What the heck is up with that 70's porn music at the very beginning!

[Kontra Kommando]

Doomkid said:

LMAO! What the heck is up with that 70's porn music at the very beginning!

lol not sure, but then it changes gears and becomes some epic battle score.

EDIT:

I've been watching a very interesting series on Netflix, called "Animal Fight Night".

[CreamCheese]

Doomkid said:

The horrible shit that's been going down in Germany the last month is.. Well, horrible, and many people seem to be content to stick their heads in that sand about it rather than reading into it and actually trying to form an objective opinion and see what other countries can learn from this phenomenon.

With that said, I don't like the "they" blanket statement fitting refugees and ISIS into one bundle - The refugees come from a hellhole and have, on average, limited education, and indeed many of them are starting fights, molesting women, and all the rest - But we have to be fair here, there's a big leap from starting fights to being a literal member of ISIS.

Many refugees are the way they are because of the conditions in which they were raised, and you just gotta love how literally no effort to actually assimilate these people into a new culture was made, they just were literally dumped in and sent on their way, and expected to magically just be ready to behave like anyone else raised in a relatively calm 1st world country. It's pretty goddamn stupid. Still, most of these people were raised in barbaric conditions, but that doesn't make them all members of ISIS - It's a bad association for people to be making, if you ask me.


This sounds like a great first step. You gotta love how people want to bomb the symptoms and not the cause.

I keep saying this, as a furniture removalist, I worked for a group called AMES which relocated refugees in Australia. They literally put them in the poorest places with the worst schools, because the property was inexpensive especially the commission housing, its such a ridiculous mismanagement of such a sensitive issue, in the sake of "political correctness". I say this as someone who is pretty much far left, we are absolutely horribly mismanaging immigration especially refugees.

We could do way better by the public and by the refugees if we accepted that there was an issue with rapes and honor killings in the muslim community, and worked with them to fix it. This is by no means giving the far-right xenophobes slack, their idea of mass surveillance and deportation of members of the muslim community is absolutely abhorrent.

But here's some facts people need to know about the string of sexual violence:

http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar_url?url=http://cjr.sagepub.com/content/18/2/182.short&hl=en&sa=X&scisig=AAGBfm0BpJLZlVrKhitZC17n3gJ_2BKFdw&nossl=1&oi=scholarr&ved=0ahUKEwiK4enwsNnLAhVO42MKHQZHDzwQgAMIGigAMAA

http://www.thelocal.se/20111202/37702

http://www.jstor.org/stable/23365641?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

"In this paper we review and extend a recent analysis of the structural determinants of forcible rape by Smith and Bennett (1985) that builds upon the theoretical works of Blau and Blau (1982) and Schwendinger and Schwendinger (1983). They find that poverty, but not racial economic inequality, is a major contributor to the rape problem."

WHY DON'T THEY EVER TALK ABOUT THIS SHIT IN THE FUCKING MEDIA. ITS A *DA-DOYY* MOMENT. Of course when you bring in millions of low education people from a warzone, with little command of the english language and little tradable skills and dump them in the poorest communities, they are going to do what poor people who are raised without working parents and have little opportunity do.

This is fucking insanity.

[printz]

No Brussels Doomers to tell what's going on there?

[Quasar]

CreamCheese said:

WHY DON'T THEY EVER TALK ABOUT THIS SHIT IN THE FUCKING MEDIA. ITS A *DA-DOYY* MOMENT.

Because the media is controlled by a group of billionaires with an otherworldly agenda that makes Cthulhu rising from the depths to consume us all look like a better option than the future they'd have us live in.