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"The Return" - John Romero and Adrian Carmack's Announcement Video

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Just imagine an epic old id Software reunion! =D

John Carmack, John Romero, Adrian Carmack, Sandy Petersen, Bobby Prince, Tom Hall, and Gregor Punchatz! =D IMAGINE THAT UNION! =D

The FPS genre will be revived! =D

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Voros said:

I couldve sworn there was a whole page of thread that said Sandy'a level design was dull .


I've always wondered why everyone seems to think Petersen is a shitty level designer. I personally don't have anything against him. The only level of his I really dislike is E3M6, and even then my reasons have little to do with the design of the level.

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fraggle said:

Nice. I'm more excited about this than the new Doom.


Me too.

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CheeseOnTheMoon said:

I've always wondered why everyone seems to think Petersen is a shitty level designer. I personally don't have anything against him. The only level of his I really dislike is E3M6, and even then my reasons have little to do with the design of the level.


His levels are fugly.

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Voros said:

I couldve sworn there was a whole page of thread that said Sandy'a level design was dull .

There are plenty of threads where people heatedly refute that spurious claim!

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Doom Dude said:

Was hoping to see John Carmack pop up from behind some rocks and look about. :p

Nah, he's the cameraman.

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Ragnor said:

Took me a while to register "Adrian" instead of "John"

Johns busy with Oculus.

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Want to see them with Carmack/Abrash at work with FPS for VR. Mindblowing!

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nxGangrel said:

Now only if we can bring back Tom Hall.

Sure, but only if he gets into a dispute over creative differences and walks, ultimately making the game better in the process. #TheWayidDid #HiredToGetFired

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Alfonzo said:

Sure, but only if he gets into a dispute over creative differences and walks, ultimately making the game better in the process. #TheWayidDid #HiredToGetFired


I feel like Tom Hall is like the Krillin of id Software. =P

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Vid made me laugh, I would love to see the others reunite if it was possible. The least likely candidate being John Carmack, since he's moved onto VR.

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That looks like a UK plate on the Nissan. Are they in the UK? Scotland perhaps?

Edit: oh apparently Romero is in IE now?

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Jon said:

That looks like a UK plate on the Nissan. Are they in the UK? Scotland perhaps?

Edit: oh apparently Romero is in IE now?

Ireland, it's where they both live now.

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Jon said:

That looks like a UK plate on the Nissan. Are they in the UK? Scotland perhaps?

Edit: oh apparently Romero is in IE now?


I guess it's in Ireland. Adrian just purchased a hotel there and Romero visited him. Allegedly the game is made in Galway. I read that somewhere...

Really curious about what's gonna be revealed on Monday.

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That makes me so excited and I don't care if they try something different like MMO elements or anything new, in fact I'd rather see new ways to reinvent the genre than making a reminiscent of the Doom classic. Although, I'd be happy they'd keep with some of the old sensibilities of oldschool FPS, especially interesting non-linear levels with lot's of secrets, nobody does that anymore.

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Doom Dude said:

Was hoping to see John Carmack pop up from behind some rocks and look about. :p

I lol'ed.

AwesomeO-789 said:

I'm sorry - what?

Wtf, exactly!

Can't wait to see what they're cooking. Hope having Carmack on board makes a big impact. I'm sure the wait will be long though.

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VGA said:

Wow I found that link in another forum without looking at the date. That's from 2012!

So we may want to disregard that, ahem.

Actual news:
http://www.develop-online.net/news/john-romero-s-new-shooter-is-something-no-one-has-ever-seen-before/0215858

Apparently, it's a really good idea and really cool stuff. So it sounds good so far!



'It's not like you would ever look at it and compare it to any other shooter that's out there,’ says Doom creator of additional planned title


Inb4 it's compared to Halo on announcement. (doesn't matter what it is)

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