Koutana Posted April 22, 2016 I just wondered, there seems to be an odd favoritism for doomwiki, and a disliking for doom.wikia. What separates them? 0 Share this post Link to post
raymoohawk Posted April 22, 2016 because the wikia was made by sgtmarkiv 0 Share this post Link to post
RichardDS90 Posted April 22, 2016 Different content primarily, IE Wiki having Community Chest IV whilst Wikia doesn't. 0 Share this post Link to post
Jaxxoon R Posted April 22, 2016 https://www.doomworld.com/vb/everything-else/87153-why-there-are-so-many-forked-wikis/ There really needs to be a stickied thread detailing this. 0 Share this post Link to post
vadrig4r Posted April 22, 2016 Wikia is AIDS. Doomwiki.org is the actual community wiki. 0 Share this post Link to post
baja blast rd. Posted April 22, 2016 Even if they were equal in every other respect -- which they are certainly not -- DoomWiki would be superior to the wikia due to the latter's annoying-as-fuck combination of the "You're leaving" window and ass-dragging on every external link. Long ago, in the days of yore, when I was a green lad who had yet to learn of the Wikia's transgressions, I built up a lot of disdain for it solely due to that, and wished whoever was responsible would have their nostrils intimately familiarized with the buttcrack of a particularly unhygienic mancubus. 0 Share this post Link to post
vadrig4r Posted April 22, 2016 rdwpa said:Even if they were equal in every other respect -- which they are certainly not -- DoomWiki would be superior to the wikia due to the latter's annoying-as-fuck combination of the "You're leaving" window and ass-dragging on every external link. Long ago, in the days of yore, when I was a green lad who had yet to learn of the Wikia's transgressions, I built up a lot of disdain for it solely due to that, and wished whoever was responsible would have their nostrils intimately familiarized with the buttcrack of a particularly unhygienic mancubus. Also this. 0 Share this post Link to post
kuchitsu Posted April 22, 2016 I think the "you're leaving" window is supposed to be a good thing that protects you or something. Some very nice sites do it too, like pixiv. 0 Share this post Link to post
Koutana Posted April 23, 2016 kuchitsu said:I think the "you're leaving" window is supposed to be a good thing that protects you or something. Some very nice sites do it too, like pixiv. It can be to protect you, but in wikia's case I think it's just to scare the less experienced into staying there. New user: "Oh man, is my computer gonna get virus by clicking here?' Wikia: "No, but you'll be more of our bitch than John Romero will ever make you. You're ours now, fucker." 0 Share this post Link to post
Fonze Posted April 23, 2016 Koutana said:It can be to protect you, but in wikia's case I think it's just to scare the less experienced into staying there. New user: "Oh man, is my computer gonna get virus by clicking here?' Wikia: "No, but you'll be more of our bitch than John Romero will ever make you. You're ours now, fucker." That's the same reason why I don't trust mediafire. Seeing anything related to "your Adobe whatever needs to be updated" makes me think of that virus that did the same exact thing... Also, on an unrelated side-note, about half of the zipped wads I download off mediafire cannot be unzipped on my phone... I don't think that's a mediafire problem, but I don't seem to have that problem with dropbox. But yeah, wikia is the Devil. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted April 23, 2016 Koutana said:What separates them? Ideology. One's a community resource, the other exists to make money as an advertising billboard with wiki content as the bait. 0 Share this post Link to post
ZeroTheEro Posted April 23, 2016 Not to mention after a while, the wikia page gets tons and tons of ads while squishing in from the sides. 0 Share this post Link to post
snapshot Posted April 23, 2016 I still wonder why didn't you remove the Wikia, or is it impossible ? 0 Share this post Link to post
Danfun64 Posted April 23, 2016 Heh heh heh... easier said than done. Wikia is hesitant to let their wikis be removed, and when one attempts to leave Wikia, this happens. 0 Share this post Link to post
Perilous Pear Posted April 23, 2016 Also wikia is an big ass site, and Doom wikia is just one of it's many sub-branches (Make an account on the walking dead wikia, and it will carry over to all the other wikias). Doomwiki.org is much broader in info and personally, I prefer that. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted April 23, 2016 DMGUYDZ64 said:I still wonder why didn't you remove the Wikia, or is it impossible ? Wikia is run by gangsters, they don't play by honest rules. What do you expect? 0 Share this post Link to post
Jon Posted April 23, 2016 I think this or the earlier thread should be stickied (in this subforum). For classic doom content, the Wikia is (now) woefully out-of-date. I think there's a chance that it could cover Doom 4 more quickly than the One True Wiki. We could really use more editors interested in Doom 4. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted April 23, 2016 The Doom Wikia is the Official TerryWAD Wiki, maintained by Terry fan Doomguy2000 aka Justice Infinity, and should only be updated with Terry content. All non-Terry content should be deleted as being out of scope and off-topic. 0 Share this post Link to post
Lila Feuer Posted April 23, 2016 I hate how any time I try to look up something via the actual wiki in search and wikia is the first result, sometimes the first three results! 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted April 23, 2016 rdwpa said:have their nostrils intimately familiarized with the buttcrack of a particularly unhygienic mancubus. Somehow, you'd think that intimately familiarizing with the buttcrack of a mancubus would be more memorable. 0 Share this post Link to post
vadrig4r Posted April 23, 2016 Jon said:I think this or the earlier thread should be stickied (in this subforum). For classic doom content, the Wikia is (now) woefully out-of-date. I think there's a chance that it could cover Doom 4 more quickly than the One True Wiki. We could really use more editors interested in Doom 4. Yeah, hopefully people who care enough about the new Doom will update the right one. With the massive influx of potential editors and Wikias ridiculous page rankings though that might be an uphill battle. A lot of new Doomers are going to come across wikiaids and just start dumping new info on there obliviously. 0 Share this post Link to post
Koutana Posted April 23, 2016 Fonze said:That's the same reason why I don't trust mediafire. Seeing anything related to "your Adobe whatever needs to be updated" makes me think of that virus that did the same exact thing... I can't even download off mediafire. It's bullshit, gimme WADs. DMGUYDZ64 said:I still wonder why didn't you remove the Wikia, or is it impossible ? There's a way but it eludes me, currently. It involves reviews and blocking and ugh 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted April 24, 2016 Considering that Wikia does not allow deleting it, the only way to get rid of it is probably for some people to repurpose it for different content and then gradually removing the old stuff but making sure that the site itself appears to remain 'valuable', so that the goons don't step in and revert it. 0 Share this post Link to post
DoomzRules Posted April 24, 2016 The Wikia has a bit more songs on the Doom music portion. Otherwise, Doomwiki is the go-to site. =) 0 Share this post Link to post
BrainMuncher Posted April 24, 2016 Cyanosis said:I hate how any time I try to look up something via the actual wiki in search and wikia is the first result, sometimes the first three results!Go to doomwiki.org Right-click on the search box Select: (Firefox) "Add a Keyword for this Search" or (Chrome) "Add as search engine" Change the keyword to something short like "doom" or "dw" Press OK Now you can search doomwiki directly from the address bar just by typing the keyword at the start. No more wikia, no google results. If your keyword is "doom", typing "doom e1m1" will search the wiki for e1m1. 0 Share this post Link to post
scifista42 Posted April 24, 2016 Or type "-wikia" (without the quotes) to Google, along with whatever word(s) you're searching for. That will ensure that all wikia results will be filtered out. 1 Share this post Link to post
Varis Alpha Posted April 24, 2016 rdwpa said:and wished whoever was responsible would have their nostrils intimately familiarized with the buttcrack of a particularly unhygienic mancubus. i think some people wouldn't mind that at all, though. 0 Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted April 24, 2016 I hate that Google invariably changes "doomwiki" to "doom wiki" when I try and search for a page, and then to add insult to injury, often fails to list the doomwiki.org version on the first page of search results at all. 0 Share this post Link to post
Li'l devil Posted April 24, 2016 If Wikia is as evil as everyone says, then I'm 100% sure that they paid Google to not list doomwiki.org on the first page of the results. Anyway, this is probably a dumb question, but is there a theoretical possibility of Wikia taking legal action against doomwiki.org because of.. plagiarism? I mean, when doomwiki forked, it just copied the already existing content from Wikia, didn't it? So.. or Wikia just doesn't give a shit? I mean, from Wikia's point of view, they would want to get rid of the doomwiki.org, because the existence of doomwiki.org makes Doom Wikia less popular, and they lose money from ads.. 0 Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted April 24, 2016 ChekaAgent said:Anyway, this is probably a dumb question, but is there a theoretical possibility of Wikia taking legal action against doomwiki.org because of.. plagiarism? I mean, when doomwiki forked, it just copied the already existing content from Wikia, didn't it? So.. or Wikia just doesn't give a shit? http://www.wikia.com/Licensing 0 Share this post Link to post