Hyphens in categories

[vita]

Why would you use that? For example, UV-Max (or even UV-MAX) reads like Ultra-Violence-Max, while UV Max reads like Ultra-Violence Max. -max parameter doesn't even exist, that is why I'm ok with UV -fast or UV -respawn (with spaces, of course).

[Ancalagon]

Rename to U-V-Max!

[Azuruish]

Indeed...

[Aqfaq]

The standardization ministry of speedrunning lingo would call it a 100% run. UV speed would be any%. No hyphens.

[GoneAway]

Aqfaq said:

The standardization ministry of speedrunning lingo would call it a 100% run. UV speed would be any%. No hyphens.

Nah, any% would be itytd speed, and 100% would probably be uv 100k/100i/100s, on uv because there are more enemies generally.

[dew]

Oh god, I was hoping we'd be able to avoid this debate. Now a schism is inevitable and the speed community will collapse into warring fractions. It was nice knowing you, gentlemen!

[Aqfaq]

After reconsidering the issue, I propose more hyphens to make it look more advanced and professional. UV----MAX, UV----SPEED, TY----SON, etc. Looks slee----k and spee----dy!

[GoneAway]

Maybe arrows could make it more explicit that these are about going fast.
>>---UV-Max->

[dew]

How about using plus signs instead to symbolize the synergy between skill and category, while also emphasizing the positive effort of the speedrunner? UV+Max...

Also there should be quotation marks around UV in case of pacifist and nomonster, because frankly, it's false advertising.

[Andrea Rovenski]

i dont care about what categories are called what as long as i have more ~world records~

[Rayziik]

UV-Max
UV-Speed
UV-Fast
UV-Respawn
Tyson
NoMo
NM-Speed
NM-100s

Is Pacifist a category separate or a modifier of any category? Like UV-Fast + Pacifist
I ask because I suppose it's possible to run on UV or on NM for Pacifist, in that case:

UV-Pacifist
NM-Pacifist

[rehelekretep]

Rayzik said:

UV-Max
UV-Speed
UV-Fast
UV-Respawn
Tyson
NoMo
NM-Speed
NM-100s

Is Pacifist a category separate or a modifier of any category? Like UV-Fast + Pacifist
I ask because I suppose it's possible to run on UV or on NM for Pacifist, in that case:

UV-Pacifist
NM-Pacifist

Pacifist is a separate category on DSDA but conversely, a lot of runs are something else plus a modifier, e.g. NM-Speed (+ Pacifist) so its a grey area

[Memfis]

With a hyphen your eyes immediately see it as a single entity. With a space you brain has to stop and think for a split second ("ok, this is a new word, but it is modifying the previous one"). So I think it's a little more convenient for the reader when there is a hyphen.

[Rayziik]

I think the main confusion is that the category names themselves are used both as nouns and adjectives, and further even used as half and half within themselves.

"Watch my UV-Max demos." < adjective
"Most of my demos are UV-Max." < noun as adjective
"That demo is not a valid UV-Max." < noun (you could add 'demo' after UV-Max, but it functions fine by itself)

I prefer the hyphen because both elements of the category name are nouns being used as adjectives, but aren't coordinate. Therefore using a hyphen maintains the entire category name as one compound noun instead of two separate things.

[Yousuf Anik]

"UV-Max" is just fine.

[vita]

rehelekretep, Memfis & Rayzik: I see difficulty names, categories (Speed, Max, Max Secrets, Max weapons/collector), parameters (-fast, -respawn, -nomonsters, -solo-net and -turbo) and self-imposed restrictions (unless a map was designed for that) or modifiers (Pacifist, Reality, Tyson or weapon(s) X only, Stroller) as separate things, that's why I prefer spaces instead of hyphens. Difficulty names, parameters and modifiers could be used as adjectives, while categories could be used as nouns only.

"Most of my UV Maxes are with -fast." — UV and -fast are adjectives, Maxes is noun
"That UV Speed is also Pacifist." — Pacifist is adjective

Yousuf Anik: why post then?

[Yousuf Anik]

38_ViTa_38 said:

Yousuf Anik: why post then?

Huh? Most people use hyphen, so far what I've seen. So doesn't it look good when use hyphen? Just asking.

[rehelekretep]

i like Rayziik's approach, because it looks neat \(*ツ*)/

[Memfis]

Don't forget about the most confusing of all: TAS speedruns! As in, tool assisted speedrun speedruns...

[vita]

They could be called TASes, tool-assisted demos or tool-assisted Doom .lmps, though.