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GZDoom64 cannot detect MIDI device

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Hi all,

Currently playing with the test builds of GZDoom64 and found out the default files cannot properly detect my software midi drivers on Windows 7 64 Bit.

If I select Timidity++, VST Midi Driver or Coolsoft VirtualMidiSynth, it would output "cannot detect midi device" in the console.

Then it would default back to the built in OS midi device (MS GM set).

I then download and tested the 32 bit build (both the FEB 17th builds) and it detected back all my midi devices perfectly!

Is there a way to fix this for the 64bit builds? I cannot find a specific 64bit of either of the 3 midi drivers listed above.

The reason is that I like to choose my own SoundFonts to play certain wads with MIDI.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Sadly this looks like the drivers are incompatible. I've never heard of such a thing but who knows what strange things can happen?

About Timidity++, have you set it up properly? This is a bit odd, I have been using it with 64 bit for years without any problems.

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Hi Graf,

GZdoom 32 bit builds works perfectly from 1.8 up to the current 2.4 FEB 17th dev build. I tested it in the sound menu to ensure my OS Windows 7 64bit is setup correctly. Same with a Windows midi player and MPC HC.

As soon as I load GZDoom 64 bit build then select either Timidity++, or VirtualMidiSyth (software midi device that loads SoundFonts), it would display the error message in the console. Then it would DEFAULT back to the MS GM Synth midi setup.

64 bit does not even detect VST MIDI DRIVER (software VTS to Midi device) at all.

Timidity++, VirtualMidiSyth http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth, VST Midi Driver https://mudlord.info/products.html are all setup properly and working under Windows 7 64 bit for both GZDoom 32bit, ZDoom 32 bit and QZdoom 32 bit as well as desktop apps.

Just for fun, checked all the current builds on DRD:

GZDoom Feb 17
Eternity Feb 16
Odamex Oct 20
QZDoom Feb 16
Zdoom Dec 29

All 32bit versions can detect all the midi devices.
All 64bit cannot detect as above in FMOD EX
All 64bit cannot also detect System Sound (which should be the default Microsoft GS Soundsynth), GUS, Wildmidi (not installed) in OpenAL mode. Fluidsynth does say no soundfont found in OpenAL but does not list error in FMOD EX mode.

It could be a x64 compatibility issue but VirtualMidiSynth is both x32/x64 whereas Timidity++ and VST Midi Driver are both x32 as far as I know.

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I can't look into your computer, but if Timidity++ doesn't work there's something else at work, as it's just an external process that shouldn't depend just on the architecture of the executable.

Can you start the engine with '+logfile log.txt' and then select each of the devices, try to play some music and post the file with the actual output here? Maybe that will give some clues.

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Using GZDoom64 FEB 17 build:


Log started: Sat Feb 18 01:07:45 2017

M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults.
Using program directory for storage
W_Init: Init WADfiles.
adding D:/Doom/gzdoom2.4.64/gzdoom.pk3, 693 lumps
adding doom_complete.pk3, 3277 lumps
I_Init: Setting up machine state.
CPU speed: 3999 MHz
CPU Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
Family 6, Model 60, Stepping 3
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2
I_InitSound: Initializing OpenAL
Opened device Speakers (Sound Blaster X-Fi MB 3)
EFX enabled
V_Init: allocate screen.
S_Init: Setting up sound.
ST_Init: Init startup screen.
Checking cmd-line parameters...
S_InitData: Load sound definitions.
G_ParseMapInfo: Load map definitions.
Texman.Init: Init texture manager.
ParseTeamInfo: Load team definitions.
LoadActors: Load actor definitions.
script parsing took 71.34 ms
R_Init: Init Doom refresh subsystem.
DecalLibrary: Load decals.
M_Init: Init menus.
P_Init: Init Playloop state.
ParseSBarInfo: Loading default status bar definition.
ParseSBarInfo: Loading custom status bar definition.
D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status.
player 1 of 1 (1 nodes)
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Could not open MIDI out device
Starting MIDI playback failed
Starting MIDI playback failed


nv_map01 - The Earth Base

Starting MIDI playback failed
Could not open MIDI out device
Failed to load any MIDI patches.
Could not open MIDI out device
I_InitSound: Initializing FMOD
FMOD Sound System, copyright © Firelight Technologies Pty, Ltd., 1994-2009.
Loaded FMOD version 4.44.60
Could not open MIDI out device
Failed to load any MIDI patches.
Could not open MIDI out device
Could not open MIDI out device
I_InitSound: Initializing OpenAL
Opened device Speakers (Sound Blaster X-Fi MB 3)
EFX enabled

Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth, VirtualMidiSynth, Timidity++ and System Sound all are using the MS GS Synth but volumes are slighty different except for:

Note under OpenAL, no sound from Timidity, GUS or System Sound. libFluidsynth64 did not load SoundFonts (might be soundfont or dir config issue)
Under FMOD EX, no sound from GUS. libFluidsynth64 did not load SoundFonts (might be soundfont or dir config issue)

Under the 32 bit build FEB 17, Timidity++, VirtualMidiSynth and VST Midi Driver all work as it configured.

Still need to mess around with Fluidsynth to configure it properly.

You can test with your current Timidity++ to check 32 vs 64 bit.

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Updated - I uninstalled and reinstalled VirtualMidiSynth and ensured it is both 32/64 bit enabled and it works now with 64 bit sourceports.

However, the other issues are still valid.

I believe Timidity++ and VST Midi Driver must be native 64 bit for sourceports to work properly. It is similar to the same situation with Fluidsynth.

If any of you coders can help port Timidity++ and VST Midi Driver over to native 64 bits, it would be greatly appreciated. I will email the developers to see if they are able to help.

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Valken said:

I believe Timidity++ must be native 64 bit for sourceports to work properly.

The weird thing is, I heard that before and yet, for me there's no problems. I can use the 32 bit version with 64 bit GZDoom without any problems. It may be that something tries to inject itself into the process and is too dumb about it. But I have no idea what software you got installed and what may do such a thing.

As for porting that code, good luck. The project is a complete and utter mess.

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Can you load a totally different soundfont in Timidity++ that does not sound like the Windows GS Soundfont in any 64 bit source build?

On a related note I found the github for the VST Midi Driver here: https://github.com/kode54/vstdriver

but no installer so have emailed the author. Hopefully he will find time to respond later.

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