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Perfect Hatred?

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Trying to complete E4M2 "Perfect Hatred" 100% without the BFG Grab and Stephan Winterfeldt jump on Nightmare and it's just not working out for me right now.

 

Anyone got any tips?

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 holy shit, you got guts...ehh, even guru speedrunners can't finish it on Nightmare! without those tricks...sooo, I think you're kinda SOL on that one...

 

shit, I'll bet Jesus himself cant even finish it...

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9 hours ago, CzechMate29200 said:

 holy shit, you got guts...ehh, even guru speedrunners can't finish it on Nightmare! without those tricks...sooo, I think you're kinda SOL on that one...

 

 

Not necessarily even trying to speedrun, just complete 100%. It honestly might come down to using those tricks... :(

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You are going to love the shotgunners and barons :). And develop a paranoia to specters and cacos!

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1 minute ago, roadworx said:

i feel left out

 

what's wrong with this map, why is everyone so afraid of it

i love that map, it's one of my top favourites, so you're not alone :)

 

 though completing it in UV is a bitch, so Nightmare is 10 times worse...D:

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This map is hell without secrets, especially on nightmare :).

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3 hours ago, roadworx said:

i feel left out

 

what's wrong with this map, why is everyone so afraid of it

There's certain tricks in this map, such as grabbing the BFG through a wall, and doing a type of strafe run called the "Stephan Winterfeldt Jump", which really helps in avoiding the lava and losing a huge chunk of health.

 

Playing the level on a normal difficulty like Ultra Violence without using those tricks in itself is difficult, nevermind on Nightmare.

 

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I am still trying very hard to achieve this.

 

On my last attempt, died at the EXIT ROOM.

 

I'm so very close.

 

Will keep everyone posted.

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6 hours ago, Pegg said:

You are going to love the shotgunners and barons :). And develop a paranoia to specters and cacos!

The specters in this map are an absolute BITCH. I feel like if it wasn't for them, I could deal with the Caco's and the Barons much easier.

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10 minutes ago, facelessdoomer said:

I find that when I run through this map on Ultra Violence, I only seem to run into 2 secrets. I know there's three but I guess I just don't bother with the last one in the route that I go.

the third is the secret exit room that leads to E4M9

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