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Earliest Doom 2 pwad?

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We have ORIGWAD for Doom 1, but what about Doom 2? And how did early Doom 2 mapping work anyway? I guess someone had to modify an existing editor so that it would work with the new iwad before anyone could place the new monsters and stuff? I wonder which program was first to support doom2.wad.

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It seems it would have been very easy to update the editors to be able to add the new monsters and work with the new iwad to make MAPxx pwads.

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According to wiki, Doom 2 was released on 30/09/94, so i was browsing for searching the earliest map after that day, and we probably have a winner!

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/stand

also, a pretty weird fact: the zip info on /idgames says it was released on 10/10/94 (European date release!), but the wad itself it was done in 22/09/94, 8 days before the official release! What is this witchcraft?

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1 hour ago, Walter confetti said:

According to wiki, Doom 2 was released on 30/09/94, so i was browsing for searching the earliest map after that day, and we probably have a winner!

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/stand

also, a pretty weird fact: the zip info on /idgames says it was released on 10/10/94 (European date release!), but the wad itself it was done in 22/09/94, 8 days before the official release! What is this witchcraft?

there was an early leaked version of the game that was pretty widespread. it's the unpatchable 1.666

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11 hours ago, anotak said:

there was an early leaked version of the game that was pretty widespread. it's the unpatchable 1.666

Or it could be a doom level re-textured with Doom 2 textures...

 

Also, the 1.666 version isn't the bundle iwad version? If you're not confusing with this: 

 

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There's a second version of 1.666 that is unpatchable since it's the leaked bootleg

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stand.wad is actually a remake of another map by the same author, headlong.wad, so my assumptions could be correct!

 

also i found a map that was released one day before stand.wad, not sure about the creation date checked the file inside the zip and it was made on 3 october 1994, so stand still be the first wad for doom 2:

 

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15 hours ago, Walter confetti said:

Or it could be a doom level re-textured with Doom 2 textures...

 

Also, the 1.666 version isn't the bundle iwad version? If you're not confusing with this: 

 

 

The first Doom 2 PWAD was almost certainly a Doom PWAD that had been re-textured / had new monsters added.  A D2 hack of DEU was out pretty fast after the game was released.

 

There was a leaked version of Doom 2 that came out prior to the official release.  It was labelled v1.666 but was not fully complete - IIRC one major issue was that map29 only had one player start - and it was never supported by the official patches.

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