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The Terraces - classic Doom 2 city-style map [Limit Removing]

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FDA died at very very end :( so close.

 

The opposition felt lukewarm, except for the key fact that I was limping around on low health the whole time, so I was still on edge throughout the whole map.

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Map is very positive in terms of experience. Another example of skillful design on the standard textures. I notice that the visual map is somewhat monotonous. The atmosphere of the original Doom 2 here really done perfectly. I, as always, at one point decided to go "on the breakthrough." As a result, I forgot to take a super shotun (later I found it already at the end), and also lost a lot of health. It's good that I was able to find a secret berserk-pack. He was very useful. The map is replete with open spaces with great opportunities for maneuver, which has a positive effect on the gameplay. Difficulty, in my opinion, is above average and is designed for a very neat and consistent player. It is felt by a moderate number of first aid kits, which do not allow to fully compensate for large losses. On the other hand, it encourages you to explore the map. For the passage, I was killed several times. The most difficult place was the final battle. Really made me nervous!

 

Doom_Font_Green_Arrow.png  First Demo Attempt GZDoom 3.2.0, 26 mins

 

In my collection:


Blue_3_5.png - Visuals (3 / 5)
Blue_4_5.png - Detailing (4 / 5)
Blue_4_5.png - Gameplay (4 / 5)
Blue_4_5.png - Atmosphere (4 / 5)
Orange_4_5.png - Difficulty (4 / 5)

 

Green_4_5.png - Overall Rating (4 / 5)

 

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Overall I enjoyed myself with this one.

 

I'd agree with @NoisyVelvet that the difficulty, especially early on, stems from limited opportunities to replenish health rather than strong opposition; it's unforgiving of mistakes, and given the number of hitscanners present at significant range during those same early portions, it's also rather unforgiving of bad luck.

 

More specific notes:

  • There are pillars with sector tag 7, separating the southern terrace near the start from what I'm going to call 'South Main Street,' but no corresponding switch or other line with the same tag that I could find; impact on gameplay is minimal as there's little reason to want to fall back to that terrace, but this looks like an obstacle that's supposed to remove itself at some point during play that instead has been left unfinished.
  • There's a similar set of pillars with sector tag 4 that are likewise missing a correspondingly tagged linedef; this has even less impact on gameplay as they're actually in an inaccessible area, but I'm left with an impression that the ledge there was supposed to be accessible, that the nearby sector 135 might have been originally designed or intended as a secret door of some kind.
  • Speaking of secret doors, I'm left with the feeling that in the sequence leading up to the blue armour, the second switch/third door part of the sequence (sector tag 27, in which linedef 3080 is a switch that opens sector 713) could do with a bit more in the way of signposting; I'm not sure linedef 3087's texturing is sufficiently different from the way you've varied brick textures for the sake of visual interest elsewhere in the map to clue players in to the fact that it's actually a secret panel.  I'd suggest either giving it a more noticeably different lower texture, or moving the panel within line of sight of the player rather than tucking it away out of sight along a somewhat narrow terrace.
  • As a matter of personal taste, I found myself really wanting a way to lower sector 232 from the top rather than having to go back through the nearby building if I happened to be standing on it when it raised; maybe a switch positioned behind a panel that doesn't open up until the player has approached the bridge/lift from the southern canal as in normal progression?

That's about all that jumped out at me just now.

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@TheOrganGrinder Thanks for the detailed feedback!

 

You're absolutely right that the difficulty comes from a lack of health.  I had a version that had more health and more enemies, and it just didn't feel right.  To actually make it challenging I needed to spam loads of extra enemies, and it just felt silly.  Fewer enemies and less health was the only solution that seemed to work, although I agree it's not very Doomish. 

 

Good observations on the tagged sectors!  Although in fact it's the opposite to your hypothesis: they used to move, and I took the functionality out.  In the first release, the map featured a lot more back-tracking, and those were shortcuts that made it easier to move back through the level (exactly as the source level in Bloodborne does).  However, in testing players didn't realize they were shortcuts, and thought they were the way forwards.  It led to lots of people getting very lost.  The simple solution was to strip them all out and make the level much more linear, and I just never removed the tags.  

 

For example, the Red Key room (the garden with the Baron) was originally just to the left of the barriers at sector 7.  You picked the Blue Key up from the end of the map, and then hoofed it back to the beginning to open the door.  But the map just didn't lend itself to such back-tracking, and people got completely turned around.  So the whole thing was simplified, and for the better I think.  Even now, if people skip the Yellow Key room, they can have a hard time remembering to go back for it later.  Imagine if the map was even more open!

 

Good suggestions on the platform and blue armor secret though.  If I do another version I'll look at tweaking those.

 

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I tend not to enjoy city levels very much as of a matter of personal taste, but there are always exceptions right? The map looks great, and has very nice gameplay. The start was really well done and the final room proved to be too difficult for me, though the concept is clever and wicked (had to force my way to the exit with the SSG). One particular note i have is that i expected more opposition in the room with the red key, so it was very anti-climatic when nothing teleported in when i picked it up. It was very nice in it's own way, a moment of relief for a change.

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Gonna take a look at this one.

 

Edit: Got through it but not without dying multiple times. Took me about 40 minutes (5 minutes which were me redoing spots where I died)

Edited by Glaice

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nice city map (i like city maps). The final room was a bummer though, since survival depends on luck there, not skills... (oh, played that with complex doom...)

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Yeah, this map was a lot of fun.  The final battle was a good challenge, I disagree that it is a luck based fight.  You have to know how the monsters move to win.  Really nice green/sewer area too.

 

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