hardcore_gamer Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, dmg_64 said: I don't want to sound like I'm defending Brutal Doom but lots of other mods use assets from other games and mods and I don't see anyone complaining, Is it just because they're not as popular as BD ? or because of crediting... Because of the later. He originally refused to give credit and even now he hides the credits behind menus so that people aren't as likely to see them. 3 Share this post Link to post
Reisal Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Must be a crediting thing mostly. Edit: Ninja'd by hardcore_gamer. I have used BD and other assets in my own RDND mod and they are thoroughly detailed in both credits lump and a text file (and permissions). 0 Share this post Link to post
DMPhobos Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Xaser said: Brutal Doom taking the #1 spot over mods for other games is a good thing for Doom. Its creator dissing the entire rest of the Doom modding community in the comments section is not. I've been reading his comments about the doom community, that's quite an asshole move, too bad it's fanbase will defend him and they'll keep boasting about how BD it's doom "the way it was supposed to be", that kind of BS is why i avoid playing BD 0 Share this post Link to post
VGamingJunkie Posted December 29, 2017 It's especially annoying when you've got people who think being compatible with Brutal Doom should be a requirement for mods. 20 Share this post Link to post
Khaoscythe Posted December 29, 2017 ...meh, still a shit mod created by a thieving developer. 2 Share this post Link to post
[McD] James Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Now that I think of it, I'm surprised that GMDX for Deus Ex didn't at least get an honourable mention. I haven't played it myself, but it has a 9.6 user rating on Mod DB. 0 Share this post Link to post
riderr3 Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) One of my complaints is BD have too much ketchup and too loud effects. Although, stealing other people's resources and code is uncultured. Edited December 30, 2017 by riderr3 2 Share this post Link to post
Cpt.Haxray Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) So in other words, he didnt use to give credit. Now he gives credit, but intentionally hides it to make it seem he made most of the assets, while being able to claim hes giving proper credit. While that IS a dick move, claiming hes 'stealing' assets is going a bit too far it seems. But what about the claims about stolen code? Is there any merit to those? 0 Share this post Link to post
wheresthebeef Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Glaice said: The original one was, yes. That and the "burning, running man" is from Blood. Which reminds me, Space Trucker is still available for sale on Steam. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gifty Posted December 30, 2017 The way the DW community reports on Brutal Doom's every move while insisting that it doesn't care one whit about Brutal Doom is extremely silly. 12 Share this post Link to post
Obsidian Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Don't look at me, I came in here fully prepared to go "That's nice." and walk out again. It's just a shame that bullshit follows in SgtMkIV's wake. 0 Share this post Link to post
Varis Alpha Posted December 30, 2017 cool, i guess. shame that mark's behavior hasn't changed though. 6 Share this post Link to post
Phade102 Posted December 30, 2017 Lets face facts, the only reason brutal doom won that award is because of all the media coverage it recieved. If something like blade of agony had recieved that much coverage it would have been first, and would have deserved it more. instead we got brutal doom, which is (in my opinion) a terrible attempt to make a classic game modern, which it doesnt need. 0 Share this post Link to post
silentzorah Posted December 30, 2017 Doesn't it already win that award every year? What's particularly new or interesting that it happened again this time? 0 Share this post Link to post
Avoozl Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Don't blame me, I voted for Phobos. Edited December 30, 2017 by Avoozl 0 Share this post Link to post
SOSU Posted December 30, 2017 Well Brutal Doom won,cool.MarkIV steals,not cool.People are going apeshit about it,normal. 0 Share this post Link to post
Cacodemon345 Posted December 30, 2017 Someone at BD Discord Server already left a flame comment about this. It mentioned: Spoiler Fuck Brutal Doom, and fuck it for winning the moddb award, the mod author told a kid to commit suicide. 0 Share this post Link to post
The_SloVinator Posted December 30, 2017 I have no problem with Brutal Doom itself, as I don't play it no more but let's face it. Mark needs to change his attitude. Before I joined the community, I heard about his shitty behavior of being sexist, racist & encouraging a kid to kill himself. I'd thought of him realizing his faults & man the fuck up & apologize for it after those incidents. I was mistaken. BD winning MOTY just strengthened his ego & now he uses his fanbase as a shield from "jealous" haters by trash talking them, thinking "I have a fanbase. Therefore, there is no way I'd feel threatened by being called out & shit." Disgusting he believes his mod took more hours to work on than Blade of Agony, for example. BD is nothing but updates now. What is a core of it, we have already seen it. It's Doom on steroids with no credit given to the resources. 0 Share this post Link to post
Cacodemon345 Posted December 30, 2017 the person that did this already left BD Discord server. 0 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, silentzorah said: Doesn't it already win that award every year? What's particularly new or interesting that it happened again this time? Spoiler Brutal Doom has polled strongly in previous awards, but has never won. Other than that, not much else probably. 0 Share this post Link to post
Olroda Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Is this Whineworld - for all your sniveling needs, or is this Doomworld? Congratulations, Sergeant_Mark_IV! 5 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) All the 'Doom politics' aside, Brutal Doom is and always has been quite an interesting modification with a great mass appeal. I wouldn't call it the best thing out there for Doom, but it is high up there in the minds of many Doomers for a reason. Thousands of players - oldschool and newschool alike - get hours of enjoyment out of it. It's good to see a Doom mod receiving such praise and recognition. That said.. Quote You know, I have probably put more hours on Brutal Doom and it's campaign than the entire Doom modding community have put on their own mods on the last year. HAHAHAHA Mark, are you tapped or what? Serious question, were you dropped on your fucking head as a child? I'm not even joking here. I hope for your sake that you're just high as fuck off your own farts - Brutal Doom is a fun mod that clearly had a lot of time put into it but uhhhhhh, there are so many mappers and modders out there, high and low profile alike, who spend countless painstaking hours on their craft. You are not the only one. I hope this is just your ego talking and you don't actually believe this horse shit lol 17 Share this post Link to post
Arctangent Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Olroda said: Is this Whineworld - for all your sniveling needs, or is this Doomworld? Congratulations, Sergeant_Mark_IV! Well, this sure is one way to admit to people you like to have very large opinions about things you know nothing about. 3 Share this post Link to post
gaspe Posted December 30, 2017 I'm actually surprised to hear this, I always thought that brutal doom already won at moddb years ago. And as weird as it will sound I feel that Sgt Mark IV has become a prisoner of his own creation. 0 Share this post Link to post
geo Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) It should have last year too. I super enjoy Brutal Doom. Its the one with the most fame too. You can't fight fame. Russian Overkill is catching up with a wide margin still to go. 1 Share this post Link to post
Liberation Posted December 30, 2017 Slagging people off and generally being a wanker is a good way to diminish the achievement, which is what has happened. Doom mods winning awards in 2017 = Amazing news! BD winning it = Irrelevant. Btw.. do you think I could get away with nicking BD's assault rifle sprites? 1 Share this post Link to post
MFG38 Posted December 30, 2017 I can't help but wonder why Brutal Doom won over so many other Doom mods that aren't unbalanced messes created by thieving asshats. 0 Share this post Link to post
hardcore_gamer Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, MFG38 said: I can't help but wonder why Brutal Doom won over so many other Doom mods that aren't unbalanced messes created by thieving asshats. Because like it or not, people like flashy loud things. Why do you think the Transformer movies make more money than some hipster art movie does? Because people would rather have this instead of deep intelligent stuff: Edited December 30, 2017 by hardcore_gamer 4 Share this post Link to post