[McD] James Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) All of his Donkey Kong high scores have been completely removed, and he is now permanently disassociated with the organization. This includes the removal of all his high scores for several other games. Steve Wiebe is now officially recognized as the first person to have scored a million points on Donkey Kong. Looks like Twin Galaxies were extremely thorough and fair in their investigation. https://www.twingalaxies.com/feed_details.php/1047/billy-mitchells-donkey-kong-and-all-other-records-removed/4 Edited April 12, 2018 by Ajora 6 Share this post Link to post
SOSU Posted February 18, 2018 LoL i watched this video a few hours ago. Basically Billy fucked up and let's see if he can get out of this alive. 0 Share this post Link to post
[McD] James Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, SOSU said: LoL i watched this video a few hours ago. Basically Billy fucked up and let's see if he can get out of this alive. I had no idea until now that he attempted to sue the Cartoon Network over a silly caricature in The Regular Show. That is some weak hot sauce right there. 2 Share this post Link to post
SOSU Posted February 18, 2018 Just now, Ajora said: I had no idea until now that he attempted to sue the Cartoon Network over a silly caricature in The Regular Show. That is some weak hot sauce right there. Sauce... Yeah he was kind of a bad guy in regular show if i remember well,i think he thought that would be bad publicity,now that we know that he possibly cheated i can see why he sued them 0 Share this post Link to post
Impie Posted February 19, 2018 Who even cares about high scores cheaters and speedrun cheaters? Why is this even newsworthy? 3 Share this post Link to post
Chopkinsca Posted February 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Impie said: Who even cares about high scores cheaters and speedrun cheaters? Why is this even newsworthy? My thoughts exactly. It's just a game, who cares. 0 Share this post Link to post
[McD] James Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) "I don't care about this particular story/point of interest, therefore nobody else does." I remember someone once telling me that nobody cared about the George Washington Bridge lane closure scandal, even though it was at the time of my bringing it up, the single most talked about thing happening in the state of New Jersey. Edited February 19, 2018 by Ajora 8 Share this post Link to post
SGS Man Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) I saw the "King of Kong" documentary and an additional Donkey Kong video by Summoning Salt a day before this video was published. I just couldn't stop laughing at the coincidence. Anyway, Bill is pretty much screwed and Twin Galaxies really has major problems on their hands. 2 Share this post Link to post
Impie Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Ajora said: I remember someone once telling me that nobody cared about the George Washington Bridge lane closure scandal, even though it was at the time of my bringing it up, the single most talked about thing happening in the state of New Jersey. Something that affects city infrastructure /= video game high scores 0 Share this post Link to post
CARRiON Posted February 19, 2018 Isn't that like asking who cares about speedrunners? It's just a niche interest that a group has. Why do you care that people care? 7 Share this post Link to post
Impie Posted February 19, 2018 Why do you care that people say a topic is dumb and irrelevant? See? Two can play that game! Now you tell me "Why do you care if I ask why you care?", and then I go "Why do YOU care?" and we go back and forth until the teacher on playground duty tells us to go sit by the fence 'til the bell rings. 1 Share this post Link to post
CARRiON Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, Impie said: Why do you care that people say a topic is dumb and irrelevant? I honestly don't. Seems like a waste of time. Kind of like going to artists you hate on Youtube just to say they suck in the comments. On a more related note, I don't follow this sort of thing but I do know who Billy Mitchell is so it will be kind of enjoyable to see his downward spiral. 2 Share this post Link to post
[McD] James Posted February 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Impie said: Something that affects city infrastructure /= video game high scores That wasn't my point. I shared another instance of someone telling me that nobody cared about something, even though it was an extreme point of interest throughout all of New Jersey at the time. A lot of these kinds of things are extremely relative. Likewise, King of Kong was and still is a very well liked movie, even to people that don't play video games. 3 Share this post Link to post
xvertigox Posted February 19, 2018 TG is such a fucking joke. Speedrun.com really need to create a sister site or incorporate highscore boards. 3 Share this post Link to post
Impie Posted February 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, CARRiON said: I honestly don't. Then don't fucking reply. Look, if someone brings up a topic they think is important, and someone else challenges its relevance to anything, a defender's job is to give some kind of persuasive argument for who it affects and why anyone should care. So far nobody has done that, least of all the guy who just says "wtf do u care srsly". 0 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted February 19, 2018 There are plenty of people around the world who make a career out of gaming, including speedrunning, and Billy Mitchell was one of those people. We're basically seeing that he's built decades of wealth and popularity on lies and cheating. It's no one's "job" to convice anyone what topics are and are not interesting. Something doesn't have to have global implications and be super lofty to be worth talking about. If casual chatter should not be allowed then we should nuke internet forums in their entirety. If you find the topic boring that's fine, just don't fucking reply. I personally have spent hours of (very enjoyable) time speedrunning some of my favorite old NES games. I loved the film King of Kong and it was one of the things that inspired me to practice speedrunning SMB1. Maybe we should just close the speedrunning section of the forums altogether though since some people don't find it interesting? <eye roll goes here> 20 Share this post Link to post
xvertigox Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) On 2/19/2018 at 2:51 PM, Impie said: Who even cares about high scores cheaters and speedrun cheaters? Why is this even newsworthy? Because speedrunning and (to a lesser extent) getting highscores have substantial communities and can be considered forms of esports (depending on definition). It's especially relevant seeing as SDA started as a Doom speedrunning site and essentially started the current day speedrunning scene. If you are totally out of the speedrunning scene/loop check out GDQ as just one example of how this is relevant to a lot of people. Edited April 13, 2018 by xvertigox 15 Share this post Link to post
Impie Posted February 19, 2018 See, THAT actually answers my question. Thanks vertigo. 0 Share this post Link to post
Tango Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Impie said: See, THAT actually answers my question. Thanks vertigo. usually when someone says "who even cares about xyz," I don't think the first interpretation of the question is going to be "someone please kindly explain if there is an audience that might care about this issue" 3 Share this post Link to post
SOSU Posted February 19, 2018 .__., Guys if it's video game related then there's a reason to disgust it because we are video game fans :^) 2 Share this post Link to post
CARRiON Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Impie said: Then don't fucking reply. Wow, butt blasted much? It's not like you answered why you thought it would be a good idea to come in here and offer absolutely nothing to the discussion. So yeah, fuck you too buddy. 0 Share this post Link to post
SOSU Posted February 19, 2018 @Impie @CARRiON @Ajora Please don't escalate this and get this thread closed,okay? :) 1 Share this post Link to post
xvertigox Posted February 19, 2018 Yo this shit is way off topic, rather than giving each other shit let's give Billy Mitchell shit for being a liar/cheater. I feel like this was the final nail in the coffin for TG after the whole Todd Rogers thing. I don't follow highscore based games, is there any alternative to TG or does everyone just use that? I'm guessing certain games have their own sites similar to GoldenEye? 3 Share this post Link to post
GuyMcBrofist Posted February 19, 2018 That was amusing. All Impie needed was a straight answer. As far as cheating scandals go, they seem to be cropping up a lot. Maybe I've been caught in some sort of echo chamber on Youtube but for the past couple of months I've seen a bunch of videos getting posted exposing spliced speedruns and fake high scores. 0 Share this post Link to post
GuyMcBrofist Posted February 19, 2018 A callous inquiry was met with typical fallacies which led to a silly exchange that only delayed the answer. 1 Share this post Link to post
Guest DILDOMASTER666 Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Impie said: Something that affects city infrastructure /= video game high scores ERROR: division by zero 0 Share this post Link to post
Lila Feuer Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, GuyMcBrofist said: That was amusing. All Impie needed was a straight answer. Ever heard of Google? 2 Share this post Link to post
CARRiON Posted February 19, 2018 Looking into this a little more, I just learned there are actually people who not only defend Billy Mitchell, but idolize the guy as if he cured a fatal disease. Even despite everything coming out against him they continue to defend the cheat. 3 Share this post Link to post
GuyMcBrofist Posted February 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, cyan0s1s said: Ever heard of Google? ffs, online forums can be such snarky shitfests. I love/hate it. I'm going to go against my better judgement and press on this. Would you like to spell out the point that you're trying to make here? 1 Share this post Link to post