Egg Boy Posted March 3, 2018 I think 90s FPSs are great. The fast visceral combat, the complex, sometimes maze-like map design. But I absolutely hate most FPS protagonists. You know, the ones with "attitude." I prefer the strong silent type. I just find characters like Duke Nukem and Lo Wang eye-rollingly unfunny and lacking in any sort of charisma. Perhaps I just can't understand the appeal because I wasn't there at the time. Anyway, what do you guys think of 90s FPS Protagonists. I understand that I'm probably in the minority here, but I still want to hear your opinions. 1 Share this post Link to post
DesecratorJ Posted March 3, 2018 Doomguy is definitely the best in my point of view. 1 Share this post Link to post
Egg Boy Posted March 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mayhem666 said: Doomguy is definitely the best in my point of view. completely agree. 0 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted March 3, 2018 Yeah, I prefer completely silent protagonists as well as opposed to ones that talk. This also breaks the immersion because you know you just control someone else as opposed to actually being the player. Despite this, I like talking protagonists such as Duke Nukem and especially Lo Wang, as juvenile his humor might be, so there's some exceptions to the rule. Otherwise there's still Doomguy, Ranger (Quake), Gordon Freeman, and so on. 0 Share this post Link to post
CARRiON Posted March 3, 2018 What made characters like Duke Nukem special was the fact that it was not a common practice at all to give the protag voice lines, especially unscripted ones they would say in response to player actions and both positive and negative feedback. This made you feel like the protag in an action movie where the hero would often have many one-liners and would trash talk their opponents. They also included a lot of pop culture references because it was novel and "cute" to hear the protag say a famous movie line or break the 4th wall in a way and reference something in the real world or even another video game. Nowadays it's very common for an FPS protag to speak, and seems like a "duh no shit" sort of thing. As for which I prefer, I don't mind silent types, and I don't mind talkative ones if done well. The problem with a character like Duke Nukem or 'classic' Lo-Wang is they're really not that funny anymore. That and they are pure parody with almost no actual character of their own, relying on the novelty of hearing them talk alone, which in the 90's was enough. There is nothing endearing about them to me. If I had to pick a favorite talkative 90's FPS protag, I'd probably say Caleb is my personal favorite. For a pissed off undead revenant seeking revenge, he can be delightfully snarky. Stephan Weyte's delivery for his lines is perfect, giving this nasty sadistic streak to his lines, like he's taking a perverse joy in fucking over those who fucked him over. That and I'm a sucker for the horror references because I <3 horror. I also adore The Crow, and Caleb's character defiantly takes direct inspiration from that movie. But overall his character is a lot more interesting, it's such a shame that series died and an asshole publisher now sits on it like a spoiled child. 4 Share this post Link to post
Lila Feuer Posted March 3, 2018 Caleb is my favorite, he's the only anti-hero in the BUILD lineup, but also the only anti-hero in the classic FPS lineup also. He will kill who or whatever gets in his way, on his path to fulfilling his vengeance, and can guns akimbo before it was cool in nu-Wolfenstein. His character seems a little edgy, maybe, but he usually just laughs at the carnage while making quips in reference to various horror movies, and when idle he'll sing old timey tunes. So overall I'd say he's less obnoxious than someone like Duke or Wang. 1 Share this post Link to post
Mr. Freeze Posted March 3, 2018 Silent protagonists actually get annoying after a while, because there's no way with all this crazy shit going on your guy wouldn't occasionally voice something. BJ Blazkowicz is my favorite mouthy protagonist as of late, and I really liked Ethan in Resident Evil 7- he had some lines but it was stated that most of his lines are your own lines expressing shock or surprise. 2 Share this post Link to post
MFG38 Posted March 3, 2018 I care very little about whether a protagonist is voiced or silent. Even though I'm not the biggest fan of the Duke Nukem franchise, I can appreciate Duke for what he is, and I actually find myself cracking a smile at some of his one-liners. One of my favorites in DNF was "Not my idea of a good screw". 2 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted March 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, MFG38 said: I care very little about whether a protagonist is voiced or silent. Even though I'm not the biggest fan of the Duke Nukem franchise, I can appreciate Duke for what he is, and I actually find myself cracking a smile at some of his one-liners. One of my favorites in DNF was "Not my idea of a good screw". "Get that crap outta here." 0 Share this post Link to post
MarsHappyNation Posted March 3, 2018 I love all the goofy voice acting and cheesy one-liners. Talkative, absurdly macho characters like Duke are super endearing to me. 2 Share this post Link to post
Uncle 80 Posted March 3, 2018 I love the bad, un-pc humour of the Lo Wang character, it's a tie between him and Duke. (And I'm talking about their original incarnations, of course) 3 Share this post Link to post
Egg Boy Posted March 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Mr. Freeze said: Silent protagonists actually get annoying after a while, because there's no way with all this crazy shit going on your guy wouldn't occasionally voice something. BJ Blazkowicz is my favorite mouthy protagonist as of late, and I really liked Ethan in Resident Evil 7- he had some lines but it was stated that most of his lines are your own lines expressing shock or surprise. These are both more recent examples. And I don't have a problem with protagonists that talk. I'm talking specifically of 90s FPSs. 0 Share this post Link to post
[McD] James Posted March 13, 2018 I like Sam Stone quite a bit, even though I'm not a fan of his games. 0 Share this post Link to post
HavoX Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) ^ Wrong decade; Serious Sam was first released in 2001. But yeah, this guy is so funny. 0 Share this post Link to post
Lila Feuer Posted March 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Ex Oblivione said: Quakeguy is best. Huh! Huh! 3 Share this post Link to post
ReX Posted March 15, 2018 Doomguy really expresses himself through the HUD, and id did an excellent job with the expressions. However, when I first played games like Duke 3D, Shadow Warrior, and Blood, I was very pleased to have a voice to go with the character. The fact that the one-liners reflected the characters' personalities was a major bonus. The additional fact that there was so much humor in the speech was the icing on the cake. 0 Share this post Link to post
Reaper8888 Posted March 15, 2018 Doomguy will always be my favorite, but Duke Nukem and Lo Wang were hilarious. For whatever reason the developers just figured that they wouldn't be able to get away with making those protagonists the serious and silent types, and perhaps they were right... 0 Share this post Link to post
vinnie245 Posted March 15, 2018 Caleb is my guy, just a complete badass that has no remorse for what he does and hes just got style. As far as silent protagonists go i have to go with Doomguy and i always loved the FaceHUD as it shows their expression by visuals alone (Wish more games implemented a FaceHUD tbh) 0 Share this post Link to post
mrthejoshmon Posted March 15, 2018 As a guy with an un-natural love for cheesy 80's/90's action flics I find myself incredibly pleased by the ability to assume direct control of 90's FPS action hero's and their 'tude, I especially like being able to crack one liners and taunt enemies as I go on my merry man slapping business. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grain of Salt Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/3/2018 at 6:18 AM, Egg Boy said: I just find characters like Duke Nukem and Lo Wang eye-rollingly unfunny and lacking in any sort of charisma. Yep yep yep. Duke3d pretty much follows the family guy school of thought, where a "joke" means quoting something word for word and adding nothing. The less said about Lo Wang, the better. On 3/3/2018 at 6:18 AM, Egg Boy said: Perhaps I just can't understand the appeal because I wasn't there at the time. Nah, they were just as dumb at the time. 0 Share this post Link to post
nxGangrel Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) On 3/13/2018 at 8:12 PM, Ex Oblivione said: Quakeguy is best. He was voiced by Trent Reznor so there's no arguing with that. Imagine what it would have been like if Quakeguy/Ranger had one liners. I'd imagine it would be something like... "Pigs get what pigs deserve" "I can reduce you! I'm hard as fucking steal!" "Human junk... Just words grunts and so much skin" "You were swimming in my haze, now you crawl on the ground!" 3 Share this post Link to post