GarrettRightBackAtYa Posted March 19, 2018 OKAY I FUCKING HAD THIS MOTHER FUCKING PROBLEM FOR FUCKING EVER SO IF THERE'S NO FIX THEN I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL MYSELF Doom Builder 2 installer said that i need to install .NET FRAMEWORK 3.5 So I TRIED TO INSTALL IT AND IT DIDN'T WORK Is There A Way To Install Doom Builder 2 Without .net framework 3.5 and have it work? 0 Share this post Link to post
Barry Burton Posted March 19, 2018 What didn't work about it? If you can't install .NET, it's usually because you already have an updated version, or a more serious problem. 0 Share this post Link to post
GarrettRightBackAtYa Posted March 19, 2018 It Doesn't Install At All i dont even have .net framework on my pc at all! or at least i cant use it at all 0 Share this post Link to post
therektafire Posted March 19, 2018 Well why can't you install It? What problems are you having exactly? Maybe you can use another editor that doesn't require .net like Eureka in the meantime? 0 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) I've had this problem before with old operating systems like XP Pro. It is sometimes because the install you have is dodgy. Try to find another source of the .net 3.5 and it might work. Edit: And I know how frustrating this is. Old versions of .net are bloated pieces of crap that are often installed for just 1 application. Note, not all versions of .net supersede older versions. Some are completely separate and installed in parallel (not over each other). 0 Share this post Link to post
Barry Burton Posted March 19, 2018 4 hours ago, alowe said: I've had this problem before with old operating systems like XP Pro. It is sometimes because the install you have is dodgy. Try to find another source of the .net 3.5 and it might work. Edit: And I know how frustrating this is. Old versions of .net are bloated pieces of crap that are often installed for just 1 application. Note, not all versions of .net supersede older versions. Some are completely separate and installed in parallel (not over each other). As far as I know, this is only true with older versions. If he's running Windows 7, 4.5.2 comes as a Windows Update eventually, and supersedes all previous versions, but I'm also not totally sure. :) 14 hours ago, GarrettRightBackAtYa said: It Doesn't Install At All i dont even have .net framework on my pc at all! or at least i cant use it at all Again, what does not work? Does it try to install? Does it throw up an error message? What operating system are you running? 0 Share this post Link to post
Pure Hellspawn Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, R4L said: What didn't work about it? If you can't install .NET, it's usually because you already have an updated version, or a more serious problem. if i'm not mistaken, you can develop .NET 3.5 applications even if you have an updated version. I'm a programmer; we use .NET 4.5 and older versions. 0 Share this post Link to post
Barry Burton Posted March 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Pure Hellspawn said: if i'm not mistaken, you can develop .NET 3.5 applications even if you have an updated version. I'm a programmer; we use .NET 4.5 and older versions. At my job our programmers use 4.5 and older as well, especially in IIS. I just remembered having 4.5 and then having 4.5.7 now because of a Windows Update. Should still work of course. 0 Share this post Link to post
joshthenesnerd Posted March 19, 2018 we can swear on the forums? alright! wait.... @Linguica can you confirm this is allowed? 5 Share this post Link to post
david_a Posted March 19, 2018 Yes we can fucking swear. We really need to know what version of Windows Mr. GarrettRightBackAtYa is using. In Windows 10, for example, .NET 3.5 is included in the Windows Features list and you have to check a box to "install" it. I have no idea what the default is. 1 Share this post Link to post
snapshot Posted March 19, 2018 Don't freaking swear in my Christian forums >:( 3 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted March 20, 2018 Doom without swearing is like Saw without blood :D But I only swear when it is justified. Like not being able to play Doom. 0 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, alowe said: Doom without swearing is like Saw without blood :D I think you might be playing a different game than the rest of us. 1 Share this post Link to post
Bloodshedder Posted March 20, 2018 HEY, RON! CAN WE SAY 'FUCK' IN THE GAME? 8 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted March 20, 2018 We could sample, "Oh fuck it!" and use that for death events. Imagination is the only limit. Beats "Medic!" though it's funny they call that after their head is blown off. Bit late bud :D Need a mod where you can kill goths and emos. They can say, "Oh fuck it!" in a depressed way lol. Make it dark humour :D 0 Share this post Link to post
Barry Burton Posted March 21, 2018 5 hours ago, GarrettRightBackAtYa said: i have WINDOWS 10 That's fantastic. Now, can you answer the other questions that I've asked two times now? 0 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, R4L said: That's fantastic. Now, can you answer the other questions that I've asked two times now? You asked a question? Spoiler Lol. Just fuckin witcha :D The other question I have is have you tried downloading an alternative copy of the .net 3.5 install, to rule out the previous one being a dud? 0 Share this post Link to post
david_a Posted March 21, 2018 15 hours ago, GarrettRightBackAtYa said: i have WINDOWS 10 You do not need to download anything to make this work. Search for "Turn Windows features on or off" in the start menu, run that, and you should see the dialog below. Make sure the first item is checked (the filled box is fine; you don't need the two sub-items). 1 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted March 24, 2018 6 hours ago, GarrettRightBackAtYa said: IT DOESN'T WORK Have you tried downloading a different install for .net 3.5 yet? 0 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) If .net 3.5 is installed (as you claim), how do you know .net is the problem? What leads you to this conclusion or informs you of this? 0 Share this post Link to post
david_a Posted March 24, 2018 11 hours ago, alowe said: Have you tried downloading a different install for .net 3.5 yet? There is no .NET 3.5 download for Windows 10. It's actually supposed to prompt you to enable the feature I showed if it's disabled when you try to run a .NET 3.5 app. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/install/dotnet-35-windows-10 I think it's pretty likely the guy is trolling or using some hacked pirated version of Win 10 that's broken. 3 Share this post Link to post
GarrettRightBackAtYa Posted April 23, 2018 someone needs to make a version of doom builder that can work with .net framework 4.0 / 4.5 alone because i have that 0 Share this post Link to post
Wereknight Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) On 19.03.2018 at 4:47 AM, GarrettRightBackAtYa said: OKAY I FUCKING HAD THIS MOTHER FUCKING PROBLEM FOR FUCKING EVER SO IF THERE'S NO FIX THEN I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL MYSELF Children... Tell me why Doom Builder. Why don't GZDoom builder instead? 1 Share this post Link to post
Kappes Buur Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) In times of yore, running the DB2 installer would install all necessary software to have a working editor. That was with Windows 7, for Windows 10 give it a try it just might work. 8 hours ago, GarrettRightBackAtYa said: someone needs to make a version of doom builder that can work with .net framework 4.0 / 4.5 alone because i have that GZDoom Builder Bugfix, from version r3018 on, uses Microsoft .Net Framework 4.6.1 both versions, x86 and x64. Edited April 23, 2018 by Kappes Buur : GZDBBF link 0 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted April 23, 2018 If you're used to the DB2 interface, is it that hard to use GZDoom? Just asking cause I've never used GZDoom. 0 Share this post Link to post
Zulk RS Posted April 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, alowe said: If you're used to the DB2 interface, is it that hard to use GZDoom? Just asking cause I've never used GZDoom. I was afraid of that at first. However, GZDB's interface is extremely similar to that of DB2. If you've already mapped in UDMF on DB2, switching to GZDB shouldn't be hard to get used to at all. Also correct me if I'm wrong but I believe GZDB can run if you have a higher version of .NET instead of 3.5 0 Share this post Link to post
GarrettRightBackAtYa Posted April 23, 2018 12 hours ago, Kappes Buur said: In times of yore, running the DB2 installer would install all necessary software to have a working editor. That was with Windows 7, for Windows 10 give it a try it just might work. GZDoom Builder Bugfix, from version r3018 on, uses Microsoft .Net Framework 4.6.1 both versions, x86 and x64. AAAAAYYYY IT WORKED WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MISSION COMPLETE TO YOU MY GOOD SIR Kappes Buur YOU EARN THIS MEDAL FOR YOUR HONORSHIP 0 Share this post Link to post
Bauul Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, alowe said: If you're used to the DB2 interface, is it that hard to use GZDoom? Just asking cause I've never used GZDoom. The GZDB interface builds on the DB2 interface. It's the same, just plus a bunch of useful stuff. If you're comfortable with DB2, you'll be fine with GZDB (remember to use the Bugfix version). Also GZDB is clever: you pick which source port you're targeting at the beginning of each map (vanilla, Boom, GZDoom etc.) and the program customizes the interface to match. So if you only make Boom maps (for example) you won't see any advanced GZDoom options or features. 0 Share this post Link to post