Reviews:
Pactionly
Prety cool huh...x
sandmanbrasil
It's a beautiful wad. But i don't like the gameplay.x
Anonymous
Some maps look quite good but the overall gameplay of this wad is very poor. Not recommended.x
Anonymous
This is a wad that starts off poorly in my opinion. The first and second levels, while very pretty, are a bit weird/weak gameplay-wise. That said, stick with this one because it gets really good later on. While much of the focus was on eye-popping detail, the gameplay is actually pretty good in most cases once you understand what the authors were going for. 5/5 stars, legendary.x
Anonymous
The visuals are excellent, but the gameplay is more often than not hopeless or just plain absent. Therefore I seriously wonder how many 5* reviewers actually have played this out @ UV. This could have been the mapset of the decade, but it's ruined to the ground. As-is: 5* for ambiance but 0.5* for gameplay = small 2*, and 'it's a pity' is an understatement. BTW If this got a Cacoward, then DoomWorld has turned into a cinema forum :-(.x
Anonymous
Okay... this is a really difficult one to rate. Incredibly gorgeous maps, some of the best examples of Duke 3D style of semi-realistic environments in any Doom wad to date. Gameplay on the other hand... it goes from switch/key hunting through this gigantic areas that are almost devoid of enemies, to all out slaughter. In both cases it goes to annoying extremes. Important, impressive wad... just not one that is very fun to play.x
Anonymous
Wonderful wads but that last was not finished. To bad, it was great. I hope you are still making wads.x
Anonymous
This is one of the most overrated wads in existence. The maps are very gorgeous and I can appreciate the amount of detail was put into and I'm afraid that's where good things end. The gameplay is where this wad fails at. Difficulty is all over place, ranging from very easy to very hard, the latter which lead to frustrating moments of unfair deaths and save scumming to get past a certain area with 10% or less health. The final couple of levels made me rage so hard. 2/5x
Anonymous
I agree with other people, the level design is superb but gameplay is fucking awful. I understand that game should be challenging but this wad throws hundreds of monsters at you in tight spaces without cover. Dying for like 50 times in a SINGLE level is frustrating, especially when I once saved game right a split-second before a monster killed me, which led to death repeating when I pressed space bar. Had to replay that stupid level (I'm talking about the horror map, MAP09). Rating: 1*x
Getsu Fune
an example of details over gameplay, but gameplay is actually quite fine if you run around a lot. really liked MAP02's detail, very realistic. lotta archies in these maps though. and wtf's up with MAP06?x
Anonymous
best scenery, worst gameplay.x
Anonymous
This is an interesting wad, it has great puzzles and great level design. Unfortunately the gameplay is where this wad fails at, the first levels aren't that bad (map01 was kinda tough for a start) but the final levels (9, 10 and 11; not counting credits level) were WAY TOO FUCKING HARD, there were too many monsters (lots of cyberdemons) and very little dodge room, nearly impossible to avoid. I managed to do without cheating but I died about 100 times in total. I played with AEOD 6.02. -Doomer95x
Anonymous
just awesome, punching pinkies like kenshirox
Anonymous
:Dx
Anonymous
Can't believe people have said: "Only noobs hate the gameplay" No, no, I don't suck at DOOM. The authors suck at monster-placement. 2/5x
Anonymous
The graphics are top-notch, but the gameplay is puzzle doom. Use cheats and the wad is fun to play!x
sincity2100
I didn't like this game,there are so much Details over gameplay,I know that Details is what makes the games look cool,but it was so long and empty at the same timex
Anonymous
Lots of effort, and some absolutely great moments, but too many flaws. Difficulty is ~sometimes~ way too hard. So much promise, but i didn't enjoy the gameplay in the most.x
Anonymous
It's very boring. 1/5x
Anonymous
these maps are incredible, the best I've ever seen, any shortcomings in the gameplay can be forgiven, I could quite happily go around these maps with no monsters onx
Anonymous
Great. First HC was 4 stars, this is 5.x
Anonymous
We need more maps like this!x
Anonymous
I get the feel that this is nothing more than a concept wad - not for playing straight, because the visuals are STUNNING, but the gameplay is, for lack of a better word, lumpy - there's nothing at a time, and then BAM!, you get rolled over by a wall of enemies. Your best bet is to turn "IDDQD" on and treat the combat as a side aspect while gawking at the maps.x
Anonymous
a waste of good resources because the gameplay is fucking boring!x
Anonymous
*Drops pants* 4/5x
Anonymous
Excellent graphics, perfect mood music, nice atmosphere, original designs...but the game play ranges from frustrating to confusing to dull. There's just too much "down time," so to speak; too much wandering aimlessly with little to no baddies. It just makes the game feel bogged down. 2/5x
Anonymous
OMG i need to know where are the first and second musics from! also, 5/5x
Anonymous
could not stand 5 minutes of this garbage 0/5x
Anonymous
Its got nice detail, but there's huge parts that lack enemies. For example, in level 1, shouldn't there be loads more demons and undead UAC personnel waiting for you, inside and outside? (especially in that large city-like area. x
Anonymous
Beautiful maps, everyones's got to see these. Gameplay is rough at times, while other maps deliver. 5/5 for visuals and some fun maps.x
Anonymous
oozes with atmosphere. cool wad if you're looking for something more than just a typical run & shoot.x
Anonymous
Wow, this sucked. Beautiful maps that I can just fill with monsters myself, already making them more fun than they are now. No effort at all in gameplay, so much that its an insult. Doesn't deserve much.x
Anonymous
Agree, weird gameplay but it fits the levels, not your typical doom maps. 5/5x
Anonymous
Where's map32 from Hellcore 1 :(x
Anonymous
Very, very overrated. Just that the maps are some of the best looking around for Doom doesn't offset the totally inconsistent and at times just awful gameplay. Sure, saying this wins a 5/5 for architecture is perhaps an understatement, but I'd be optimistic to give it a 2/5 for GP. I agree: Download this wad to look to look at its levels, then delete it; it's a big waste of space otherwise. If they had done even a little to balance the gameplay, we'd have a true classic, but this isn't it.x
Anonymous
pretty awesome stuff, wish there was more!x
Anonymous
This is definitely a masterpiece that you should play if you haven't yet! 4.5/5 -Milianx
Anonymous
This is for sure one of the best wads ever made for doom. even though gameplay may be annoying, it "fits" the maps pretty well. so far, i am giving it 5 stars, awesome detail and ok gameplay.x
Anonymous
wow, just wowx
Anonymous
Gameplay was too hard for given difficulty, but other than that, no gripes. 5/5x
Anonymous
Best mapset I've ever played, anything else coming?!x
Anonymous
After the first HC megawad sucked (no offense guys), This is a great comeback!!! Yeah! That's how I like 'em, brutal and unforgving, yet beautiful! Gentleman West and Babor, know that a girl admires your work! - Lisax
Anonymous
4 stars. So after a good solid cleanup, this is what si left of HC. 12 maps presented here left me watning for more (those areas that were scraped out, esp. the prison area, c'mon now FINISH IT!, please, so to make up the number of maps, 12 is not enough), and, well, yeah the detail and design is top notch, but the gameplay suffered a lot,it's annoying, inconsistent and not much fun. I too secretly wish they just finished HC and made a great MW instead.x
Anonymous
Haha. Wickedly evil gameplay, I loved it. If you find a good number of the secrets the game seemed actually pretty easy. Not for FPS newbies, that's for sure. d/l if you like a good challenge and beautiful maps.x
Anonymous
I'll make an exception and give it 5 despite the fact that I couldn't make it to the finish and didn't enjoy a minute of what I played. sorry. I'd stick to trying to make a gr8 megawad instead of 12 hugegantic, beautious but utterly boring maps.I don't agree with the "hellrevealed without the ammo" gamepl., but I know how much effort went into this, so... Music and atmosphere in map 01 was so immersive as if I could smell the air in the docks, my personal fav, beautiful...x
Anonymous
Best architecture to date! 5/5x
Anonymous
Uber great, need morex
Anonymous
Beautiful maps. Gameplay is odd but a nice change, good stuff.x
Anonymous
Well, at least the levels look fantastic. The maps aren't that fun to play in. They're just fun to look at. 3/5x
Anonymous
Wicked doesn't even begin to cover it. 5:5x
Anonymous
Some of the best maps ever made for Doom2. 5/5x
Anonymous
Super wadx
Anonymous
It looks very great! Nice wad. 5/5x
Anonymous
This is really nice stuff. I had to save all the damn time because some of the stuff is really hard. I know why people think this is frustrating but things look awsome. 4/20/07x
Anonymous
Kudos to Darkfyre and Fusion for the enormous improvement over the disappointing unfinished version. Despite some problems with the flow of the gameplay, this beautiful mapset deserves its 5 stars.x
Anonymous
Best wad ever!x
Anonymous
The gameplay is atmospheric in parts but due to fussy door design and the fact that the layouts are just *too* stretched this was, and I say it as a seasoned oldschooler, frustrating to play. The replacement textures aren't great either but the biggy is the lack of flow. This mapset is many things and a lot of people like it but for me it's not what Doom is about. 2 stars - pritchx
Anonymous
Died twice on UV. Perfect difficulty, you noobs need to stop whining so much. Great wad.x
Anonymous
I think one of the skills should have been used for a typical doom gameplay because I don't like this one. but I respect the author's work - 5 stars for the visuals.x
Anonymous
If nothing else, this is the most beautifully detailed map series I've ever seen. I felt that you guys could've made crystal sectors or something like that when making the windows.x
Anonymous
The levels look really awesome, but goddamn the maps can either be mind-numbingly bornig or frustratingly hard with a ton of monsters teleporting all around you at certain times. Shameful. These guys should have tried spending more time working on the gameplay aspects of the map rather than the visual eye-candy.x
Anonymous
The solitary wad that really teaches you how to make your map LOOK good. 5/5x
Anonymous
Amazing 'AND' Superbx
Anonymous
Epic wad. 5/5x
Anonymous
10/5, the true hellcore! - Optimusx
Anonymous
Glad this won a Caco! Gameplay is awsome imo. But I can see how it wouldn't be for everyone. If you don't like the gameplay, anyone will agree to atleast clev through the various beautifuly detailed levels. 5/5, ignore the childish Doomworld trolls, give it a shot yourself. And I noticed you have to use the automap a lot, especially map2, so you don't have to guess what doors to open. Greeeeeeat!x
Anonymous
On a technical level this is superb, with 33mb of good-looking textures and enormous maps, with lots of clever design touches. But it still feels schizo; you wander around these large and detailed levels without meeting a monster for several minutes, and then you are hit by a mass of baddies. Map02 is the best-looking "Deus Ex for Doom" level I have ever seen, but you can just run through it, and it's tedious pressing all those doors in order to find keys.x
Anonymous
This shouldn't have gotten a Cacoaward at all.x
Anonymous
Terrible, don't download this travesty.x
Anonymous
Zero. Searching for monsters all the damn time gave me a headachex
Anonymous
Contrary to a lot of speculation, these maps are quite good. Some maps don't have that 'classic' flow, and I believe this is the only reason some people don't like the wad. However regardless of the play style, it is important to create maps that are not overly confusing/complicate d (as is illustrated by any commercial game) and I think, in some regards, certain maps border on that threshold. I would suggest making some slightly smaller maps - say, 75% of avg. hellcore map size. 5/5x
Anonymous
Nice work guys, i enjoyed the gameplay and have never seen a more 'realistic' doom wad in my life. 5/5x
Anonymous
This falls into that most sorry category of wads, i.e. "Zdoom-only due to errors". This appears to have been a product of the authors' attitude - not prepared to ask for help when they couldn't solve problems themselves, not even willing to listen to their own playtesters, and ignoring reviews of the previous version. The maps themselves are outwardly beautiful, but often lacking in true substance - topologically some of them are trivial, as RjY pointed out.x
Anonymous
The gameplay isn't too great, but this obviously isn't what this wad is made for. It is by far the most amazing, detailed, impressive thing ever created for the Doom engine, and, odds are, will remain as the most impressive thing ever created for the Doom engine.x
Anonymous
Great Atmospere, details and lovely wide areas, but unfortunately the gameplay was sometimes under average and there are some lags appearences... overall a little worse 4 ;)x
Anonymous
Beautiful levels. Some fights were tough, but I got through it without too much difficulty. Good job guys.x
Anonymous
very atmospheric and detailed. these maps are great on nightmare mode 5/5 ----MORBIDTWATT x
Anonymous
One of the most detailed and up paced megawads of all time. 5/5x
Anonymous
Really cool. Gameplay is just fine if you dont SUCK. Never seen maps look as detailed and realistic in Doom before, which is a GOOD thing.x
Anonymous
Nothing short of amazing, I loved it! The detail in the maps is insane, creates outstanding atmosphere. The gameplay was extremely fun for me as well, not always quite as high paced as doom usually is, but I liked it. It helps builds suspense and adds to the atmospheric qualities of the maps. I love being absorbed by the "feeling" of the gameplay/maps, instead of just frag festing in non-memorable square rooms... I'm a huge Hellcore fan!x
Anonymous
To add to what reviewer 5 said, I found the easiest difficulty too hard, which is largely to do with the awkward and often frustrating placement of monsters, and the very large level design tedious and even frustrating. That isn't to say this wad is bad, but some fundamental components of good level design could have been done better. On another note, a massive amount of detail doesn't necessarily improve the aesthetics of the map, especially given to the fact that this is Doom 2.x
Anonymous
Just played it through. These are some of the most beautiful maps i've ever seen. The realistic detailing is a refreshing change from the standard look of Doom maps. I enjoyed the gameplay myself, i believe due to the fact that it caters to more seasoned players. 5/5x
Anonymous
Don't know what all the whining's about. Gameplay's fast hard and fun, when it's quiet I'm almost fearful about when it's about to erupt again! Very fun and very well designed wad.x
Anonymous
Looks are good, but I think some are actually criticizing the play too LITTLE. There are areas w/ few/no monsters and areas w/ too many. This makes the play often range from frustrating and hard to painfully boring and quiet. I don't think I've seen another wad that looks so good, but in which the gameplay is such an awful setback. If only the team would release a new version with FAR better monster placement, then they will have released one of the best wads this year, but for now, very dissapointing. x
Anonymous
Look great, but the gameplay ranges from boring to frustrating save/load fest. 3/5x
Anonymous
:O -Ultimatex
Anonymous
Beautiful, epic designs, but so-so gameplay and confusingly large layouts. 4/5 because it's so nice-looking.x
Anonymous
Pretty good stuff overall. The maps are definetly atmospheric and fun to play. Probably one of the better level sets released this year. I hope the author(s) make more wads in the future. 4/5x