Brotherhood Of Ruin Released

? What is with all these other comments?

Anyway, Brotherhood of Ruin is good. You should play it. If you can't get it from the link above try:

[url]http://members.home.net/stphrz/wads/ruinbros.zip[/url]

Dunno how much longer that link will last due to all the crapola surrounding @home recently. It works for now though.

http://members.home.net/stphrz/wads/ruinbros.zip

There :P

Totally awesome.

A MUST PLAY!

God damnit,that link's unstable.. got cut off three times now, at about 95% >:-(
Aw hell, will try again ^_^

Get it from despayre :)

use wget which has autoseek

Yeah BoR is totally awesome.. i was one of the happy that got to beta test it :) Wish I could have done a better job though.

here too:

http://www.doomcenter.com/downloads/wads.phtml?id=114335&language=en

Well.. from what i've seen so far; this kicks lots of ass! Visually stunning, one of few levels i've played that actually look good in GL. And the themes and textures really fit the monsters in doom, while looking really original. Great job!

Just one pain.. Getting something boom to work properly.. Anything dos based gets me music but no sound. prboom won't recognize half of the keys on the keyboard, and Glboom doesn't draw projectiles (imp fireballs and stuff). Ugh.

...for the links. nice to see bigger wads released nowadays. i had bookmarked ruinbros for a future releases list, together with hr2, alien vendetta, millennium doom and what else should be done some day.

awesome

The web site says BoR will not play with Zdoom, but it runs fine with Zdoom 1.23 on my computer. What features am I missing by not using MBF?

geocities is 'gay' and @home is dead..

* doom will have to wait

BoR was pretty awesome. The only real criticism I can offer is that the levels were pretty similar -- it felt like I played the same level seven times. There was almost no variety in themes between levels. Granted, since that theme was executed EXTREMELY well, that may not be a criticism; however, it would have been nice to see a little more variety.

Still, this kicks ass. BoR has some of the best "Temple/Ruins" architecture I have ever seen. Way to go.

try my ftp

ftp://despayre.org/pub/games/doom/wads/

"Anything dos based gets me music but no sound"

Same here. I can play a dos program only once with sound. Thats the first time. After that, The sound stops working. Thats also why I stopped making Hexen maps. No sound.

Hmmm. Still works fine for me. Works for my brother in Calgary as well. I've noticed a fair number of people have always had problems connecting properly to @home members web space and pages. The system is crap obviously :/

thanks, arioch

stphrz, yeah, i heard @home's having problems now, maybe the routes going my direction are affected

What makes BoR so great (IMO) are especially the textures. Textures like that are very rarely (if at all) used in Doom, so they are "fresh".

What MBF features does it actually use?

I just played it... whoever said it was "much of the same" is officially blind... great diversity in architecture and detail, beautiful areas and a refreshing texture set (for doom). And keeps the good old fashioned doom gameplay! thumbs up.

played it in gl legacy... which works with no problems.

Yes it's a nice refreshing change.. The textures work well in Doom. Much better than in Hexen 2.

This was one my my best dooming experiences, EVER.

jackie chan say "way a go"

If you're having trouble getting MBF to work, try using SMMU instead; As the latter is based on the former, it's 100% compatible.

flowing water and underwater that I noticed so far... should work with anything Boom compatible (works fine with PrBoom)

Nice one from old Kristian.
One of his levels will be coming up in Plutonia Exp. II (the site of which has been updated BTW) which is damn fine stuff.

http://plut2.vze.com

Wow Sam, I didn't expect such great progress on Plut II. Now there's even more releases to look out for in the not so distant (hopefully) future.

This is really good, albeit a bit hard in layout. AWESOME easter egg in map05 :)

I'm thru about 3/4ths of the maps now, and Bro. of Ruin is very nice indeed. Wonderful use of excellent and well-themed textures, good hints and intuition on most secrets, nice natural-feeling layouts, with reasonable difficulty -- more "dangerous" than "hard", a big plus in my book. Good choice of music and sound effect replacements, too.

I would criticize it as Lutz did, for lack of variation among levels, but this is only a minor drawback. A bit more of a drawback is a tendency to have hordes of all one sort of monster, when a mixed crew would be more exciting and more dangerous (tho sometimes this happens because you really should have investigated further before killing that big dude :) This tends to only happen on the ground, tho -- critters living up in the heights have more variety. Ammo and health balance are good -- always enough to get by, seldom enough to waste, probably just enough for scratch starts. Waste not, want not :)

Good job. Make more!!