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    The /newstuff Chronicles #149


    The Ultimate DooMer

    So, newstuff is nearly a century and a half old - but before the celebrations can begin next week, there's this week's selection of wads. Not much on the single player front, but as we all know this week's been about Skulltag - so there's a couple of wads made specially for it, plus a few deathmatch wads to try out the new version with. Frag away:

    • Wart 01 by Brad Carney (Carnevil)
      76kb - Skulltag - SP -
      OMG a Skulltag map! Not only that, a single player Skulltag map! This is designed to show off the features of the newly-released version 0.95b of Skulltag. These are all gameplay-related, including enhanced monsters, a ton of new weapons (not replacing the originals, mind you) a rune system that gives various effects and new powerups (including a cool one at the end). The map itself is medium-sized, and in two halves theme-wise. Detail is pretty good in the gothic half and reasonable in the modern half, with ZDoom features being use a lot, too. Despite all the new stuff, the gameplay is pretty tough - there's not really enough health to go round, and ammo will be a major problem later on. But this map does it's job well - and I think we'll be seeing many wads being designed for Skulltag in the future.

    • Unreal Tournament Announcer by Destroyer
      1240kb - Skulltag - DM -
      Also for the newly-released Skulltag 0.95b, this is a sound wad that adds the Unreal Tournament announcer to the proceedings. Just for a bit more atmosphere in the arena.

    • Yesterday's Brownies by Iikka Keranen
      68kb - doom2.exe - DM -
      A small Quake-style deathmatch map with some Quake-like textures and a slight resemblance to the E1M5 there. Detail is surprisingly good, despite the bareness of the passages. The layout is passages and small/medium rooms, with no doors, lifts or large areas. Lead-slingers and rockets only, and some health/armour too. Given all this, the gameplay should be hunting-based, with the occasional suicide thrown in.

    • Acid 4 by SirTimberWolf
      66kb - Boom/ZDoom - DM -
      A small deathmatch map set in a sewer. It's dark, Phobos-like and has plenty of the green stuff. In fact, the sludge pits are fake underwater zones and are fairly deep, so no escaping should you fall in. The areas are pretty bare though, and some of the wall lights could've been used a lot better than they are. All weapons are in except chainsaw and BFG, with some health and armour around, too. The fluent layout means that battles should be fast-paced despite the darkness, and the inescapable sludge pits place an emphasis on control as well as style, damage and aggression.

    • Threshold by SirTimberWolf
      832kb - Boom/ZDoom - DM -
      A large deathmatch map set in a base. It's dark (until you go outside), pretty industrial-looking and has a lot of detail. In fact some of it is really impressive, although texture alignment is a bit off in some places. Non-plasma weapons are used, with some health and armour around as well. The indoor part is reasonably open, with no real hazards apart from the other players, and if you want a really open battle (or to escape the darkness), go outside. However, the size of the map means you really need to bring along a few more friends to frag with.

    • Teh Pain Emmental by Espi
      618kb -source port - SP -
      A rather silly wad comprising of a huge grid of identikit square rooms with identikit contents (the rooms look quite good, btw). Gameplay consists of blasting away millions of lost souls/pain elementals with rockets (and secret plasma gun). And in ZDoom you have the added annoyance of reloading your save every time a lost soul opens another door (releasing an unstoppable plague). The only way to succeed is to magically know where the important rooms are, use god mode or break F9. In short, don't bother.

    • Blood Pentagram by Darren Finch (Doom Dude)
      196kb - Legacy - SP -
      A fairly small but good looking wad set in some kind of castle. New textures give a nice castley feel to it, and Legacy's 3D floors are used to create...(drum roll)...for the first time ever...wait for it...real tables and chairs! The rest of the architecture looks pretty good, too. Gameplay-wise, there's nothing tougher than a demon, but there's a new imp which is pretty tough. The health and ammo are precariously balanced, mainly due to the new imps. Not bad, and there's even no crashes to boot (w00t!).

    • Black Mountain by Templar
      70kb - doom.exe - SP -
      A fairly large DooM 1 map that doesn't take as long as a large map normally would. It's set in a remote mountain region, and the outdoor parts of this map together with the Phobos sky really do make you feel like you're out in the mountains. Inside, it's an old-fashioned maze of passages with a hellish theme. But this maze isn't that complex, as there are no dead ends and only two rooms and one key to find. After that, it's more outdoor trekking without foot blisters (it is only a game). Plenty of monsters are around, and plenty of ammo to blast them with, but watch the health while maze-running. The only downer on this map is the detail, which is pretty bare indoors (except for the second room) and also quite bare outdoors, but this doesn't dampen the atmosphere - in fact it gives the map an old-fashioned feel to it (like the sort of map found on the data cd's). Nostalgia hunters will enjoy this, as will most of you I think.

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    WTF Iikka Keranen..? OMG HE'S BACK !

    [EDIT] Alas:

    This is very likely my last Doom2 level ever. I only did it because I felt like it. Please don't ask me to join your wad project ;-P


    Heh.

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    Mordeth said:

    WTF Iikka Keranen..? OMG HE'S BACK !


    Pretty old wad.

    IKBROWNY WAD       187.016  10-04-00  16.30 ikbrowny.wad
    

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    Hmmm, a lot of DM maps. I know people do play a lot of DM, and obviously SkullTag will up that as well, but seriously, how many of these are going to get much use? Every week there are a crop of DM maps that I'm sure most people will just fire up in SP mode, say "oooh pretty" and then quit, never to see the map again.

    Are DM maps really just an exercise in making pretty maps or do people really give them the play time that all the effort that goes into making them justifies? Or do people like just making eye-candy maps for the sake of it? (Art for art's sake.)

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    Enjay said:

    Every week there are a crop of DM maps that I'm sure most people will just fire up in SP mode, say "oooh pretty" and then quit, never to see the map again.

    I just did that to Iikka's map :P

    Anyway, maybe when I get the bots back into ST, people will play these maps more. In fact, I'm pretty sure that will be the case.

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    Enjay said:

    Hmmm, a lot of DM maps. I know people do play a lot of DM, and obviously SkullTag will up that as well, but seriously, how many of these are going to get much use? Every week there are a crop of DM maps that I'm sure most people will just fire up in SP mode, say "oooh pretty" and then quit, never to see the map again.

    Are DM maps really just an exercise in making pretty maps or do people really give them the play time that all the effort that goes into making them justifies? Or do people like just making eye-candy maps for the sake of it? (Art for art's sake.)


    Ditto. I think at least 2/3 of all dm wads (80-85-90%) never see the light of day again after people tried them once.

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    What. Just because the idea is silly, that doesn't mean I didn't go through some effort making sure the map is playable and stuff. By playable I mean being able to clean every room and finish the level without cheating, with reasonable difficulty.

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    Come on UD you're supposed to tell me which wads are the newbie wads so I don't download them. It's your job!

    Guess I'll go play Teh pain Emmental!

    EDIT:

    Come on UD you're supposed to tell me which wads can lag some computers so I don't download them. It's your job!

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    Enjay said:

    Hmmm, a lot of DM maps. I know people do play a lot of DM, and obviously SkullTag will up that as well, but seriously, how many of these are going to get much use? Every week there are a crop of DM maps that I'm sure most people will just fire up in SP mode, say "oooh pretty" and then quit, never to see the map again.

    Are DM maps really just an exercise in making pretty maps or do people really give them the play time that all the effort that goes into making them justifies? Or do people like just making eye-candy maps for the sake of it? (Art for art's sake.)

    Yeah, you're right. That's why I stopped making single DM maps. But I'm lucky that I have some maps in ST, so people will actually play them :P

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    Enjay said:

    Are DM maps really just an exercise in making pretty maps or do people really give them the play time that all the effort that goes into making them justifies? Or do people like just making eye-candy maps for the sake of it? (Art for art's sake.)

    Sometimes yes. It's a rather ok excuse.

    Espi! OMG bad review! :P It is pretty hard.

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    I think if a DM map is really good enough it's worth running a server for. I'd like it better if there was more than one map per wad though. If you want to run a few of these, you'll have to modify them to be on subsequent map numbers, or combine them all in to one wad. So my suggestion, especially for this SirTimberwolf, if you're going to release more than one dm map to newstuff (even if they were made at different times or whatever) that they all get put into one wad so people can enjoy them together. His are for Legacy so they're not all that great for my SkullTag server, but it still applies.

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    The Ultimate DooMer said:
    Blood Pentagram by Darren Finch (Doom Dude)
    196kb - Legacy - SP - (img)
    A fairly small but good looking wad set in some kind of castle. New textures give a nice castley feel to it, and Legacy's 3D floors are used to create...(drum roll)...for the first time ever...wait for it...real tables and chairs! The rest of the architecture looks pretty good, too. Gameplay-wise, there's nothing tougher than a demon, but there's a new imp which is pretty tough. The health and ammo are precariously balanced, mainly due to the new imps. Not bad, and there's even no crashes to boot (w00t!).

    Bah! Why is it that every time I take a break from my megawad to make something else, the same damn idea gets released in /newstuff two weeks later!?

    ....oh, well. Mine's gonna be for Heretic, anyway (if it even gets done now).

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    Torn said:
    Ditto. I think at least 2/3 of all dm wads (80-85-90%) never see the light of day again after people tried them once.


    Yeah... though I don't know how this is different with SP wads. There might be more SP players because you just need one player, but the PWADs per se aren't played many times unless they're stuff like AV or something else that's super cool. That is, only a few SP wads are played more than once by whoever plays them. Were all the others "worth it"? Probably not much.

    I uploaded Keränen's "Yesterday's Brownies" when I noticed the planetquake link gave an ugly (permanent?) 404. It's also listed on Ricrob's page, where I got it off the sickly 3DDownloads thingy after waiting over 10 minutes. So I thought it was well worth uploading a WAD by a classic author, especially since I've just played it and had played it in the past. Dunno about the other DM wads... I ain't touching them, but who knows, someone might like them.

    As for the wad, The Ultimate DooMer isn't far off in saying it's "hunting-based." It's rather small, but the many curves and ups and downs, plus the lack of energy weapons gives only the SSG or rockets for fast kills, so you don't get many frags. But those many curves and height changes plus the small size do inspire suspense while playing.

    Strangely in one location I saw a VPO while playing it on DM, but then I didn't see it when I was walking in the wad on SP; which made me wonder if for some reason the engine has stricter limits while running on multiplayer... some people have noted stricter maxdemo limits, so...

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    Wart? Wal Mart?

    Cyb said:

    I uploaded the entire thing with linux and kde... damnit that sucked

    I prefer /usr/bin/ftp, that interface has not changed since 1970.

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    netnomad312 said:

    Bah! Why is it that every time I take a break from my megawad to make something else, the same damn idea gets released in /newstuff two weeks later!?

    ....oh, well. Mine's gonna be for Heretic, anyway (if it even gets done now).


    I'm only just warming up and started on map02 already. ;) Anyhow, I'd like to see what you've done as well...

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    I agree with what myk said

    hirogen: I did use ftp which was part of the problem, does it take regexps are file arguments? maybe I should rtfm heh. I also had to putz with gimp to resize the screenshot for the main page, gimp is really weird, it sure could use some sort of central window or something. getting off topic here but I've just installed this on a home machine that I can use whenever I come home from uni just for the hell of it really. I'd also be super happy if I could get sound working, but can't have everything can we (grumble linux grumble)

    a couple of these maps sound pretty decent, I'll have to play them once I get back to skool where my win2k machine is <3

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    myk said:

    Yeah... though I don't know how this is different with SP wads.

    If Torn was agreeing with Enjay's post, then I suspect he meant that people look at them once in SP mode, and then never play them ever in DM - i.e. they are not used for their intended purpose at all by most people.

    On the other hand, if an SP level is played once by most people in the community, then that can be viewed as a success, since it is being used as intended. Sure, I imagine there are few modern SP wads that get more than 1000 plays in total (except if they are very demo-friendly, and some nuts play them hundreds of times...), but then the mapper probably realizes that beforehand.

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    Carnevil said:

    OMG play Wart 01 people!


    OK, done. It was fun, showed off the cool new features nicely. And I played it more than once. :-)

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    Enjay said:

    OK, done. It was fun, showed off the cool new features nicely. And I played it more than once. :-)

    Sweet :)

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    Grazza, you're making me waste my breath here. Who cares about that reasoning? The point is, why even come out and say "oh no, more DM wads" just cause you don't play them? As if what appears on the /newstuff Chronicles were made in demand and as if it were necessary to censure what each of us doesn't play. As if DM weren't a rather relevant part of the game... Whoever made the maps made them for a reason. If you want something specific, ask for it or suggest it, but don't go around saying "no" to whatever you don't need here; this is a place where people freely upload whatever they decided to make for whatever reason they wanted. What, the two or three DM wads on the list clutter your Internet Explorer window? Ow, that must hurt!

    My point is you gotta be real bitchy to be saying that whenever more than one DM wad shows up on the list.

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