The /newstuff Chronicles #58

More RDDP goodness!
I hadn't seen that yet...

I have to warn people that mystic8 does not work properly in software/dos modes, it gives HOM all over the place and looks really crap. The mystic series were only tested in Legacy opengl mode.

Wow, those screenies of my levels look really bad, in opengl those levels are gorgeous.

The screenshots ARE in OpenGL.

what brightness level do you have it set on? my level looks horribly bright. regardless of that, thanks for the review. :)

On my setup they look like this
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3ddoom/mystic8a.jpg
and this
http://www.murray6.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3ddoom/mystic8b.jpg

Much nicer dont you think? How come the floors are not transparent in your screenies?

Whoa crap, those look pretty cool. Legacy won't run on my comp though, blphrt.

Played Mystic8. Nice.

BOOOORRRRIIIING

::yawn::

The maps looks, but the 3D floors won't show up for me. I using the lastest version. i must be doing something wrong.
Any ideas?

Yes it is tiresome isnt it W@velength? [yawns and sighs]

I only tested them in opengl with a voodoo Banshee card, Big Al says they are fine in Glide on his voodoo3 and the minigl driver should also work. The 3D floors are supposed to be translucent, like in my screenies below.

Its not just Mystic 8 that has the problem with software and dos modes, Mystic5, 6 and 7 also have it.
I cant fix it without completely changing the layout of the levels and the way they play so Im leaving them as they are. 3D Hardware only.

Im using a GeForce2 mx 32mb I'll try something a different setting

Just fyi,

Unofficial Wad Designers Handbook

is no longer hosted on newdoom?
Their link points back to doomworld.

I am so SICK of these Mystic maps. They all play the same.

Yeah, I know, you just run around shooting stuff. What were you expecting, they are made for deathmatch.

I really enjoyed DoomTown. I loved "Tunnel Run" (one of my faves in fact) and these levels (esp 2 and 3) were very reminiscent of the style of Tunnel Run. Recessed switches, Support3 style cross beams etc. The first level is a really nice reinterpretaion of Map01 too. I really enjoyed that. The extra architechture and upping in difficulty were well handled. A nice piece of quality work.

Yes, don't expect to see any more Mystic maps in The /newstuff Chronicles.

Yes, naturally, Wavylength, it is boring. I'm absolutely CERTAIN that you could come up with anything better. I'm certain that your crappy little levels (assuming you have any) are far superior to that of the puny designers eg. Chris Lutz who waste their time putting massive and really fine architectural detail into their maps. I'm certain that you'll grow up into a politician, too, you're such a small-minded wanker!

By the way, who the Hell is Gaylength?


Forget I asked. Wavelength's getting his own damn fan club now. ;)

no, I wasn't dissing them, they're cool maps and all, but You've made, what? 8 of them?

I didn't think i'd get caught up in this stupid crap, but I think I speak for everyone when I say your a complete idiot.

I like Mystics levels. I'm just happy to see people making levels. They rule in DM, and besides, isn't DOOM all about running around and shooting things?

btw, wavelength, try making some friends, then you won't have to come up with imaginary assholes to respond to your meaningless comments

Inferno.

You know, trashing other people's work generally doesn't reflect very well on you. If so and so's work sucks for such and such reasons, then let it go and don't stress yourself out over making sure that everyone knows that you think it sucks.

Personally, I think the Mystic series of levels is very well designed, and although the playability in each of them is similar, they do make a hell of a deathmatch... And besides, that's what they were designed for in the first place. It also gives me a tough act to follow with my own project, and I like that kind of friendly little challenge.

- Jeremy Wagner

Your right, I shouldn't have said that. Sorry Mystic :P

Sorry, did I miss something? When did Inferno trash Mystic's maps? He simply said that he was sick of them...I know what he meant by that (although he could have phrased it with a bit more tact), I must admit to thinking what! another one? myself. Mystic's maps look very nice, but to produce 8 on the same theme is pushing it a bit far imho.

Having said that, Mystic is adding new features to each progressive map, so it's not totally unreasonable for him to adopt this approach if he wants. It's just that it would be nice to see a variation in themes....heh, this may seem a bit rich coming from someone who designs maps that are all darkly lit and seems to use only the stone/metal/wood textures. Oh well, what do i know anyway? :)

Maybe I went too defensive on this one, but given the way inferno stated his case, I felt as though he was being quite hostile.

"I am so SICK of these Mystic maps. They all play the same."

Then again, I've been known as the kind of guy who delves deeper than he should.

- Jeremy

fair enough m8 :)

Thanks for the praise for DoomTown, i'll try not to go all 'fredrick' on you guys -j/k fred ;)

You're quite right about the similarities between DT and Tunnel Run. In fact DoomTown was originally going to be a five level PC and Tunnel Run was designed to be it's third level. I aborted the project though, finished Tunnel Run and released it as a stand-alone level. What is presented as level 3 in DT was originally going to be level 4 (in fact this level was never really finished properly, the ending is a bit weak and really needed more attention). I decided to release DT as a 3 level wad mainly because it had been sitting on my hard drive for years and it seemed a bit pointless not to release it having spent all that time and effort designing the levels.

DoomTown moved me emotionally. It reminded me of the good ol' days *sniff*

Don't listen to 'em Mystic, your maps kick ass!