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    ZDoom Ramps Up


    Linguica

    The ZDoom news page has a picture that you really need to go look at. Like, right now. Stop reading and go over there. What is it, you ask? Damnit, stop asking questions and go look.

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    HOLY CRAP!!! I thought it would never happen!
    Now where is the release Randy? Huh? Please? Please? The pain THE PAIN!!!

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    I hope it's possible to tilt textures now, pretty much any texture will look nasty on a slope.

    Anyways, it's still very very cool!!

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    Man! we finally have slopes in doom!
    Just what i need for Phobos Tech center to make it stand out.

    Now all we need is edge styled 3d stuff.

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    Well 3d floors in zdoom will most likely wait a while. atleast until Doom Legacy have a puplic release of them. Since Randy can't ripp EDGEs 3d floors cause of the rendering in it. >:)

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    Guest Slipgate

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    Hey...
    That looks like an existing Doom2 level (the
    inmost dens) with a part of the level reinterpreted, perhaps engine side, rather than a slope feature that you can implement in an editor. Still.... nice, but the textures need to be tilted. :) Unless you want triangular bricks.
    Slipgate

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    Okay! Tilted floors! In Doom! Wow.

    What I want to know is when Randy is going to have curved surfaces. Come on, on the site he said he had feature creep....

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    Ola just ICQ'ed me this:

    You have received a message!
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    Heh.

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    Oh joy! This is far more important than true 3d... allthough the EDGE tricks look kind of nice, this is much more important for me as a map maker. And about textures - I'd do custom textures rather than rotating them. I don't like the look of rotated textures and it gives ugly "seams".

    This piece of news might very well bring me back into doom editing at full effect...

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    Guest Fanatic

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    It looks interesting, but notice that the whole thing is tilted in the same direction and same slope.

    I'm not knocking it, as it looks VERY beta, perhaps even a hack (via ACS?). EDGE extrafloors are way more powerful than slopes. But I look foreward to EDGE having them so I can use both.

    I am excited to see that it's being done tho, we should see some super neat stuff from Rick Clark with this! :)

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    Eh, I think you need glasses Marc :) There are clearly at least two directions of slopes visible, the front grey brick wall slopes east and down, and the back one slopes north and down.

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    I think when boom came out this was one of my original request for the doom engine. Unlike other features slopes don't really change doom's gameplay but are a nice addition. Ola is right - this is far more important then true 3d. Fanatic is scrambling to cover EDGE's ass. hahaha :) I love EDGE but YES, WOOOOOO, OH YEAH!

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    3D floors got more power and useful areas. slopes are just a neat effect. Not really useful to anything but making stuff look better. Nothing wrong with that though.

    3d floor the people

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    Swedish Fish: scrambling for what? I'm just pointing out that slopes cannot beat 3D floors.

    NiGHTMARE: I'm totally aware of what I'm looking at -it looks to be a slope from one corner of the structure leaning down to the other side (kind of diagonally).

    I will take anyone on to make a map using only slopes in ZDOOM (when ready of course) compared to a map I can make only using 3D floors in EDGE. I guarentee that slopes won't beat 3D floors.

    3D floors are much more important and useful then slopes.

    Don't get me wrong, I want to have slopes too, but given the choice, I would rather have only 3D floors over only slopes. I would use slopes more for decoration than for the actual gameplay environment.

    Play the QDOOM public test again, warp to QD3, and tell me that slopes can beat that! :)

    And again, I'm not trying to be a jerk or beat down ZDOOM. Just think about slopes and 3D floors -3D floors add a lot more to a level than slopes could. But, slopes are a fantastic enhancement.

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    It looks engine side.

    I mean, if you used an editor to add in the slopes, would you really go to the trouble of adjusting an original level? Looks like a diagonal slope to me.

    Tho, it'd be strange to play with.

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    >Is that sloped sectors I see in the latest screenshot? :)

    I prefer to call them "tilted" sectors, since they can be slanted at any
    orientation and not just with respect to one of the walls defining the
    sector.

    -Randy

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    slope, n. 1. rising or falling ground. 2. any inclined line, surface, etc.; slant. 3. the amount or degree of this. v.i. [SLOPED, SLOPING], to have an upward or downward inclination; slant. v.t., to cause to slope.

    slant, v.t. & v.i., to incline; slope. n., an oblique surface, line, etc.

    tilt, v.t., to cause to slope; tip. v.i., to slope, incline. n., a slope.

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    You know, theoretically, if we had 3D floors AND slopes, and were able to use 3D slopes, we would be able to make ANY kind of level (with a LOT of work, mind you), including full reproductions of Quake/Half-life levels.
    If I had a choice of just one feature, I would probably go with slopes.

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    I was waiting for someone to make sloping floors possible like duke3d did...

    Now I am waiting for true3d floors like quake's had...

    C'mon, get to work, you have another challenge people!

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