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  1. Just made the decision to remove OpenSuse 11.2 from my server and build a proper operating system on the machine. So I am installing http://gentoo.org in a chrooted environment from Linux Mint 9 to build a customised Linux distribution that I will enjoy using. I just erased the contents of my Open Suse partition with Midnight Commander and I was left with a blank slate which I unpacked the stage 3 tarball into, followed by the portage tarball and then I could copy the /etc/resolv.conf over to the /etc folder in the gentoo partion and setup the /proc and /dev mounts then chroot into the partition and use emerge to retrieve and build the needed packages. It is not so hard after all when you are in a chroot, you can do it in the Gnome terminal which due to compiz is translucent and you can see the web browser through it so I can read the instructions on the gentoo site through the terminal, so I do not need to keep switching windows to read the text I need, a cool trick.

    I keep hearing about Gentoo and people keep telling others to `just install Gentoo`, so I decided to do just that. It uses the 2.6.34 kernel so it would have good support for modern hardware and it much easier to install than FreeBSD. I am installing Gnome at the moment with emerge gnome and I will soon re-boot to check out my installation. I need to update the Linux Mint grub2 bootloader soon to be able to boot Gentoo, but that is easy.

    I am not sure if I need a initrd.img for Gentoo, but I will try and build one anyway, it cannot hurt to do that, since it is what I am used to doing with Ubuntu and other distributions of Linux. I will just build one then regenerate the grub boot menu with Linux Mint and then do a test boot of Gentoo, but it should be right, I have built everything it needs to run and I should be fine. Having something like Gentoo and Linux from Scratch allows someone to have a customised Linux distribution that is there own and built to their specifications and not including heaps of unnecessary bloat like Ubuntu and Open Suse include. I left the CFLAGS parameters in /etc/make.conf as-is, I just had to set the USE flags to install Gnome.

    I have booted the system up and played around with the command prompt and used SSH to connect from my laptop and manage the system, but now I am running Linux Mint 9 and chrooted into the system to compile Xorg. I wondered why I could not get a desktop up... I wish Ubuntu had ~# genkernel all like Gentoo uses to build the Gentoo kernel with hardware detection for your system.

    How many people on /g/ actually install Gentoo, entirely with the chroot environment? I will build Xorg and friends then re-boot into Gentoo and try and get wicd working, so I can use WIFI to get on the Internet.

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    2. YukiRaven


      Maes said:

      Today? Script kiddies mod their UNIX "for fun" and the presumed user-friendliest computers (Macs) use a UNIX-based OS....how times change, indeed.

      Don't forget that the two major smartphone OSes are *nix based. Sort of gives extra oomph to the argument "worse is better".

      For the most part, I'm actually pretty happy to see *nix-based OSes spread like this. The only downside I see is the kind of user who downloads Ubuntu, gets it to install, then immediately believes they're a *nix expert. It's not specific *nix, but it just bugs me more in this case.

    3. neubejiita


      Well, the attraction of Gentoo for me is not ricing, it is being able to instantly use ssh over a crossover cable to my laptop and I have not been able to get that to work with Linux Mint 9. But Gentoo works very well with no NetworkManager faggotry, it uses the eth0 as soon as it boots, although I wanted to have FreeBSD on the server, I might put another hard disk in and try that again, I just wish I could download it faster, a DVD iso is a bit much for me. But I am still trying to get a desktop up, I have to build more Xorg packages. But I like it better than Ubuntu, I have moved from Ubuntu on my laptop to Fedora Core 13, which has better hardware support and more firmware on the live cd. Once I get a desktop up I can install prboom+ and chocolate Doom, although I am triple booting with Linux Mint 9 for chroot Gentoo building, and Windows XP for Red Alert 2 gaming.

    4. YukiRaven


      neubejiita said:

      NetworkManager faggotry....Fedora Core 13

      NetworkManager needs to die. I've had more problems with it than I can count.

      Fedora, on the other hand, was a pretty good distro. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Only reason I don't run it still is that a few specific packages I use weren't as stable on it than on Slackware.