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  1. I might be biased at this point, but I think there aren't any objectively bad tracks in the OST. I mean... if there's a right context given to them, a map that fits and lives up to the music, then even something nincompoopish like D_AMPIE can get away with an "okay" rating. That said, I still can lose my cool in no time when dissonance occurs - take those early mapsets like Hell Revealed (or both Final Doom iWads to look no further) that didn't overwrite the track for MAP23. The result is nothing euphonic, let alone adherent to a good gameplay experience. I had a stinker of D_E1M7 for a long time, partially because I got lost with no autorun on E2M5 as a kid. I still don't have warm feelings towards "Demons on the Prey", but I can get along with it as for now. D_ADRIAN sounds like a cheap, futile, much less intense cover for "Into Sandy's City" IMHO, but it still makes the cut for me. "Countdown to Death" and "The Dave D. Taylor Blues" are major gripes though - I can't relate a single symptom of benevolence towards them, but at least I can finish the maps they're featured in relatively fast. The reason I still don't hiss at either of the aforementioned? Stick your earbuds in and prepare for bleeding from your eardrums profusely: (Not if the rest of the Keen 7 soundtrack was actually anything pleasant to listen to either.) Ummm... I guess if back then in 1993, Doom's "Inferno" was such thing as this something is trying to describe it within its cacophonic notes of disaster, then these Boards wouldn't exist either. Point is? It is so horrible that it can't be related to any Doom map (or any game environment to be more precise) without sticking out harshly and unpleasantly to the point of actually deteriorating gameplay experience instead of adding to it* - unlike any and every soundtrack in the Doom OST if the right context is given. *I think this is what "objectively bad soundtrack" can be defined as best. [EDIT] @Ajora I can relate to that. I might also add at this point that eardrum atrocities of this tier mainly occur because the composer has the desperate urge to pull something decent off, but all they have at their disposal are irky 8bit-ish sounding "instrument" notes. Never mind, put them to good use.
  2. For this wonderful gift of gratitude, let me award you with... (Looks just as idiotic and stupid as I imagined it to be...) A TANSTAR.
  3. Rather childish than actually guilty, but I always ask for a day off at work whether my birthday occurs within the year. I feel no remorse by slightest about it.
  4. Throwing a fit at not scoring 100% Items and restarting the map from square one if I forgot to save before exiting.
  5. I suffer from severe molluscophobia to the point I even cringe at the mere depicturing of a puny land snail.
  6. One linedef indications are for the weak.
  7. This one quote is so deep and touching, it always brings tears to my eyes. :,-)


    1. galileo31dos01


      Look at his hands, with the left one he's saying HIGH 5! and with the right one MY 5 FINGERS IN UR FACE

  8. Lost track of it, changes too many times. :S
  9. About a month ago, I got my ass kicked from another Boards for teaching a rather rude (outright provocative and arrogant to put it harshly) person good manners. The admins of that Forum simply reasoned it as "backseat modding".

    Later did I find out that the culprit was an actual old-runner for that community. But not that really contributive type, just the one kind of "been around since like 200X" type of "never too outrageous to be banned", yet "scumbag enough to infuriate people" or howshallIputit - and of course, over the time, he got on good terms with the other old-runners, including a couple of them Admins aswell.

    Well, prestige wins over humanity once again. Frank Grimes-esque experience it was.

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    2. mrthejoshmon


      What kind of forum was you posting on that harboured that kind of sentient scrotum?

    3. Cell


      The Forum was a Hungarian one (quite an aspect to begin with, this explains literally everything), and I translated the posts more-or-less nuanced according to their original contents.

      Hungarian communities more oftentimes than not work by cutthroat competition for one thing. I admit I wasn't Pure White in the story either - maybe I went above some limits aswell and sort of deigned to his intelligence level at the argument, some weakness the Admins could get hold of perfectly - but then again, I regret nothing. Having told this crossbred cunt my best is by no means anything to be ashamed of, and if those Admins chose to defend their estabilished flea-ridden little pupper, then it's no community I heartfully would've been part of anyways.

    4. Cell



      What a coincidental speak of devil! The same Admin who banned me wrote me an e-mail about an hour ago.

      He warned me that a police prosecution was raised against me for defamation of an individual. Informed me with details about the tauntive person from the Forums - turns out that he's an early-forties guy diagnosed with, like, eight different mental disabilities and he's due to treatment twice a week in the hospital; also added that he might not even last for the next year if things turn even worse for him.

      So, if put correctly, I must feel terribly guilty for myself for being a heartless and cruel person and throwing insults at someone who might not even know what he writes and does without acknowledging the consequences - but me, as an individual with a fair mental health, should not even come close to talk back to 'em as I might've been also correct with my offensive statements about "irreversible harm to their nerve system".

      Now, lemme quote the lad himself: "Boo-hoo, what a sob story!" Assume I don't immediately call bullshit on all the aforementioned and accept it's true nature, then comes the following:

      Those Admins and fellow members do a flatout self-righteous love and acceptance towards a man who's best accommodated at an insti-FCKN-tution designed for the ones who suffer from a similar condition. I mean, having a checkup twice a week is simply not enough if someone is dying in their early forties this bad by that mental state they're doomed to have. Instead, they're tolerating his behavior alienating newer and newer possible members for the community who might also become worthy for them, and the ones who don't take their shit might be as well given the sack themselves. And to add insult to injury, the truth about that seriously ill user might never be hinted by slightest unless it's too late.

      The text in bold quite sums up the general contents of the reply I wrote back to the Admin, to which I also added that there's no chance I'd show up at any trial that might be happening in the future. They're unlucky enough for wiping my entire account out of their database, so they won't be able to track my ip either.

    5. bzzrak


      Jesus Christ, your stories were always kinda surreal, but this one beats 'em all.

      I'm not sure what can they accuse you of, actually? You had no idea the guy's literally schizophrenic or whatever you spell it like.



    6. Cell


      Schizophrenic? I'd rather call that borderline dementia by kindest, to be honest, though the diagnose isn't particularly clear for me as I'm not a psychiatrist myself, and that dear Admin just hinted that the guy was treated for several different mental illnesses (i.e. he wasn't exactly said to have several personalities).

      Defamation according to the law translates to "the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual person", but by the Hungarian standard of crime overration, here it also extends to cases in which the statements are, in fact, true, but offensive enough for the individual (to be offended to the heartbroken verge of bawling tears, boo-hoo) and are a reason for a sorta distorted image of they themselves to be projected towards outer people.

      I might be laughing now at how I'm at sixes and sevens by this experience and how it escalated quickly to being an actual law infringement, but these guys may indeed mean a serious business once my identity is found out, God forbid not.

    7. mrthejoshmon


      That's pretty rough, perhaps the moderators did their damn jobs and alerted people to the situation then it'd gone so much smoother.

    8. bzzrak


      Uh, I don't know much about psycho diseases so I used schizowhatevericantevenspellthat as a generalization. :]


      Anyway, please take care. Let's leave that meme image that I posted at that -- a meme image I posted just4lulz. :]

      I'd advise you to legitimately seek help from some lawyer or something. I know it might be a bit embarrasing  or something (like, I trolled a guy online and now he wants to sue me!), but better safe than sorry.

    9. Cell


      UH-OH. Seems like I'm done for.

      Some persistent scavengers I have issues with, for they were willing to hire a hacker to track my ip back from my e-mail address, the one from which I've sent my answer. I still thought they'd be faking, only for me to be shown scanned copies of my personal data, from back then when they were required for my university admission - assuming that they must've also broken into my computer.


      Heh. They thought they were so smart they'd got a hold on me, but nope. I was still a step ahead of them.

      Just before things started to take a dramatic turn, I've already made contact with the lawyer dude my house purchase is on duty with. Even though he wasn't quite keen on the crime front, he knew a colleague of his who knows just about the entire penal code by heart. With his thorough assistance, the entire staff was told that even if they're going to resort to law of criminal procedure, they'd be in for much worse than I could ever be, including unethical methods for revealing an individual's identity and persuading a person of clinical case into doing what he thinks is right to do.

      According to their humble, apologetic response, they must've admitted defeat and retreated into their shells for good. They'd better be, this joke was already taking too long for me to find it funny anymore.

    10. bzzrak


      don't f*ck with cell

    11. Cell


      ^ Yup, that's pretty much the an aesop for this entire twisted shit I'd been part of. :]


    You members are more oftentimes than not fine folks of making arguments over everyday issues as I pull off, so I'd like to share something of a dilemma with you:
    NOTE: sheerly radical examples don't count. I.e. don't go into lenghts like, said guy raped your elder sister, killed your parents or was the culprit behind the arson that cost your home. Stick to issues that are likely to happen in your everyday life and so.

    1. geo


      Someone can still be funny even if I hate or dislike them. However, some people I will intentionally stoneface any joke they have even if I find it amusing. I've gone to lengths to keep my stone face. I have been told I'm being passive aggressive when I do that.


      You might laugh at this, but I have people I get along great with, we have lots of laughs and you'd think we're best friends even if we hate one another. Us looking like genuine best friends is what life could have been like, but usually a woman gets involved and hatred happens.

    2. Memfis


      Yes, it can be hard to admit that someone I dislike did something good.

    3. Jayextee


      I don't ever have this problem because I literally do not hate anybody.

    4. Voros


      IDGAF about it. OK, so that person did something better than me, so why should I whine about it?

    5. geo


      Now that I'm awake, this isn't humor, but I've defended or agreed with people I dislike or hate. That's not even about being friend thought, its about doing what's right.

  11. Perhaps the NO1 reason why certain mods and/or games suck - but at least this is what I pull off my experience - is that they consume themselves into overexcessive storytelling.

    Even though some of those are actually neat, promising and stuff (including sorts of originality), many still suffer of the very clichés of "youngest prince of the three"-esque bullshit, you're facing alone against the entirety of this cruel, nasty world, everything and everyone wants you for dinner, yet, by some sheer luck, you end up being victorious, then the cast rolls celebrating your triumph. Hooray, how original.

    You may or may not waste your time reading 859 pages of .txt documentary attached to the launcher file, but regardless of dat, some unenjoyable, cringeworthy indie attempt it turns out to be anyways - about 99.8% sure. So never trust anything coming with Notepad files "weighing" several hundreds of megabytes, made out of mere sugarcoating in ASCII chars.

    1. Albertoni


      Not only that, but a mistake quite a bunch of people make is that "is it fun to play?" should be the most asked question during development.


      You're definitely spot-on on the story thing. I think it was Romero who said that the story of a game is like the story in a porn movie, expected, but that's not why you're consuming that entertainment. Sure, there are some good story-driven games, just like there are some good story-heavy movies with hardcore pornography. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    2. KVELLER


      @Albertoni It was Carmack.

    3. Nems


      Another problem I encounter when it comes to storytelling in games and mods is how it's delivered, or as I like to call it: "Why should I care?"


      A story is good and all but a good story is one where the reader or consumer WANTS to know more about what's going on, what happens next, the possible lore behind the story. I felt like Doom 2016 did a good job of this. They got the gameplay nailed down right in my opinion but they also presented the story in such a way that I wanted to know more about the world and its lore. I found myself actually caring about the finer details and they were presented well, even if it was in a way self-aware of how silly it was.


      F.E.A.R. (the original and to some extent its expansions), in my opinion, did a great job of drip-feeding the story and having it escalate in such a way it kept you glued to the seat to find out just how deep Armacham's projects went into unethical territory. Hearing phone messages and checking laptops helped fuel that curiosity of wanting to know what happens next, of wanting to know how deep the rabbit hole went with Armacham.


      S.T.A.L.K.E.R. does a good job at telling a story through a number of different ways, from the NPC's, to the files you find, to even the environment. It's a hostile area that clearly doesn't want you there yet when I played I found myself wanting to know more about how things went down in the Zone while also wanting to get better gear to continue to uncover the Zone's story/secrets.


      Examples of games that didn't pull that off well to me? The Half-Life franchise (I found the contrived and forced, ham-fisted deification of Gordon Freeman in both one and two to be so laughable, absurd, and undeserving that the whole thing in general felt schlocky when it was trying to be straight-faced about it) and Guild Wars 2 (the dev team's knack for non-linear storytelling and leaving plot threads hanging only to maybe come back to them later [or not] instead of resolving them right then and there burned me out).

    4. Cell


      ^ Stories have a higher chance to be good, or at least affordable, if they're actually programmed to build up alongside your progression into the game. Big names in the game industry more oftentimes than not live up to the expectations, and should even one of said games' documentary typed in a Notepad file excess 100MB, perfect tactics for hatred evasion persuades them to master balancing storytelling and gameplay in a measurable degree. Then there are the companies either infamous or barely known for anything - you may already take the hint at this one.

      The irkiness of having a documentation with superfluous details in a separate text file actually derives from the devs themselves being too lazy and/or incompetent to implement this feature into their product - and if this is the case, it may also come along with the game itself becoming heapishly halfassed or otherwise disastrous. Worse yet, if companies hire flatout poets to write Pulitzer-worthy masterpieces of originality, yet almost all of the programmers for the project are career-questionable rookies, they already have all set for shutting down in a year or two.

      As harsh and radical as it may sound.

  12. All I remember that I was dreadly restrained from even daring pressing any of the four switches in E2M8, because I thought they would revive the dead Barons.
  13. It really lives up to its name. I liked that you'd be honest.
  14. "TIXƎ" is a horrible design choice and I strongly discourage anyone from using it. Shot taken from my submission (MAP17) for this pWad. [EDIT] @Jimmy: the answer to your question is (c).
  15. Here I am, illustrating a quite old story of sheer dumbness. So, here's the view of the Blue Armor secret in E1M1: All I remember that I really wanted to get out and into the yard, but I couldn't by any chance make it. To be fair, this was only my second or third playthrough of the map somewhere in '04 I guess. But, I played the second game before the first, and I could recall of seeing a structure quite similar to the light brown one to the right... Oh yeah, this is it! The entrance of MAP19. Could that one be an entrance, too?... Perhaps of E1M2!! My thoughts set me into action and I stormed eagerly forward and exited E1M1, only to be greeted by this view: Oh well... This was the time Cell knew, he f*cked up. But this further understates that back then, IWAD exploration was lotsa fun.