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What's boring about it? I think it's great.

Well, The Refinery isn't exactly realistic it's...Doom realistic, meaning that compared to modern games, it's not realistic at all but for Doom standards it is. In the end it's not the realism that makes it good (or any other "good-looking" Doom map), it's the atmosphere, a CRITICAL component of Doom which is often overlooked by a lot of casual FPS players which leads them to comparing Doom with Serious Sam or Painkiller and that's just completely wrong. I haven't played your game yet but I've watched a lot of videos and again, it looks good from a technical standpoint but it lacks atmosphere. I'm not saying you should copy the Doom 3/ The Refinery style, I'm merely asking you to look at what these examples do from an atmosphere POV. Atmosphere is the reason why I like Doom 3 more than some people here (even though it has its problems as well) Regarding the monsters...I just don't agree at all. First-Person Shooters are primarily VISUAL, people don't really care about the story justifications of the monsters' appearance. This is especially true to games like these. Therefore, the personality of the levels and monsters should come from the way they LOOK and ACT combined with interesting gameplay. To make an analogy, imagine if Mortal Kombat were focused 75% on story and 25% on visuals. The reason why MK was so successful is not only because of blood but because of how iconic the characters looked, the visual effect of their moves (equivalent to the animations of the guns) and how these moves influenced other characters (just ask yourself why shooting a pinky or an imp with an SSG is so satisfying). I like to call this action and re-action. The things you SEE, you DO and the monsters do to you is what should give a game like this personality. The story of the game merely COMPLEMENTS the characters.The story alone can't make them interesting. This is why Midway/NetherRealm characters are able to get away with paper-thin personalities. While the rivalry of Sub-Zero and Scorpion is iconic, it's nothing special but it still makes BOTH characters more likeable. However, without their uniqueness mentioned before, the story part would have fallen flat. The way I see it, you have a long way to go before you make a game the calibre of Doom, it has so many little things that are so neatly stitched together that people don't see them anymore. The Doom community has so many extremely talented mappers who can balance gameplay and visuals/atmosphere. Why not hire a few? The first that come to mind are Esselfortium (my all-time favorite) and Kristus. Since making maps for these kind of games is not really that hard, it doesn't even need to be a full-time job. I also hope you will take the engine licensing in consideration, it could be incredibly beneficial to you and the retro gaming community. I hope my criticism is not offending.

Imagine if this gets on 4chan.

Here are my posts from YouTube detailing my thoughts about Wrack. While the art style is very clean and; the textures are quite nice, I don't really dig it. I think it's because the levels don't really have a sense of place and seem sameish. I would rather like levels to be a bit more unique and a tad more realistic as in "this room is clearly this or that". A good example of what I'm talking about is The Refinery by Tormentor667, very modern but very fitting at the same time. In The Refinery, you can see a very fitting blend of Doom 3 and old school, which what I'd like to see. Not only that but the map actually feels like a real place (in Doom terms). To sum it up, the environments just doesn't feel as serious as Doom which is weird since it is a lot more detailed than Doom. Maybe this amount of detail works in Doom because it's low res? Another thing is that the enemies don't really feel unique. They feel too random. Metal spiders, humanoid soldiers, robots and drones aren't really interesting. Compared to the demons of hell from Doom, which have a lot of personality. One more thing. Old school shooters are very popular at the moment and a lot of people would like to make more shooters like Doom, what do you think about licensing the engine to indie devs?

I've heard that animation is very difficult with UD, why exactly? Can't they just use this tech for static stuff and 3D models for dynamic stuff?

This looks incredibly promising. EDIT: We're going to see this at E3. http://www.bethblog.com/2013/05/28/pre-e3-hands-on-with-wolfenstein-the-new-order/

New screenshots! http://www.pcgamer.com/gallery/wolfenstein-the-new-order-screenshots-show-blazkowicz-at-war/wolfenstein-screenshot-1/

In response to your comment, read this http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1170188#post1170188 Doom is SO MUCH more than just "shotguns and demons". Sure it had a lot of problems but people fail to see the parts that made it a good Doom sequel (or at least serviceable). It was relatively non-linear, had tons of secrets, few cutscenes, no regen health. The only problem was that it didn't reach its true potential due to technical restraints.

Doom 2 lacks a lot of Doom 1 textures.

Hey guys, am making significant progress on my first map of which I am extremely proud of. I would like to join this project but I'm afraid my map is made for Doom 1, not Doom 2. It is vanilla-only and uses only stock textures and I would like it to remain that way because I think it's very beneficial to my mapping skill.

I wouldn't joke about this, he seems unstable.

When the girl I was talking about earlier friend-zoned me, she asked me to go out with her almost daily. We talked, made jokes etc. but eventually I realized how unhealthy these interactions with her are and how much harm they did. So I started ignoring her in hopes of forgetting her. It worked for a while until she made a huge hissy fit about how I don't want to see her anymore(and I absolutely don't understand why). I always saw this as bizarre especially since she (gently) made it clear that she doesn't want me...She did this twice. Because of this, she constantly invaded my thoughts and when I couldn't take it anymore, I unfriended her on Facebook. She also moved back to her hometown which means I will hopefully never see her again. In hindsight, she was always very polite and gentle about the situation (which somehow made me feel even worse) but I'm glad I decided to break all contact with her. I'm not saying this was totally bad for me, it was useful in the sense that I learned a lot from it but it also made me very depressed for a long time. She also kept telling me that I was not ready for a relationship or that I'm not on the same level as her yet...I vaguely understood what she meant but now I think I have a much better picture of it thanks to a previous post by Schwerpunk...Alternatively, she could also have used her overall niceness towards me to keep me on a leash so that she could get attention from me especially since she was more mature than I so she knew she had an edge on me...but I'm not quite sure about that. I wish I could return to a simpler time when I just wanted to play games. EDIT: Can someone tell me how sexuality is related to maturity? I don't quite understand.

OMG, is this how every lonely person unable to have a healthy social life eventually ends up?A sick, twisted fuck?!I don't wanna end up like THAT. I fucking hate this stupid life.

Wtf is with this Kinect bullshit?! Not only does it look like HAL9000 but it also reminds me of the telescreens from 1984.

WAT. Lol, this is your fault GoatLord. This thread shall be remembered in the annals of Doomworld. Pls don't hell this yet. This thread is highly rich in Lulzium.

I think Valve is preparing something like that. It would be very beneficial for the PC market. Now all we need is an OS made specially for gamers...ValveOS?

I wonder how Brutal Sex is like.

Are you saying that being hopelessly in love with a girl for about four years and thinking about her so much that it affects your life is NOT uncommon?I imagined most people got over their first love in about 6 months max. Maybe I'm not such a loser after all.

That's quite a story. Still better than being sexually frustrated.

The fact that they talked about Kinect features and TV instead of games FIRST is very saddening.What are they thinking? Oh well, let them be awed by cheap gimmicks while I finish my beloved Black Mesa for the 8th time and play the best Doom WADs. A PC can do everything a console can and more.

I didn't mean it in a snarky way, I actually meant it as a joke, sorry if anyone got offended. Maybe it's a cultural issue. Then again, my country is very westernized (not a bad thing) so things are a bit blurry. But yeah, things definitely get awkward when my friends start "talking" about their experiences and I am next in line. Well...maybe it ISN'T such a big deal after all. I just hope I won't regret all this wasted time hating myself for it during my prime years. Part of my problem is that I fell in love with a girl from my class really hard. I thought of her almost constantly throughout high-school and still do from time to time. For that reason, I began to loathe myself more and more and also developed a fear of women. Nothing too serious but enough to make me hesitant of asking one out.

Really? I get a lot of subtexts from the few friends I have how much of a loser it is to be inexperienced at this age. Don't really know how serious they are.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how weird is it to be a virgin at 21? (Please don't use Doomworld standards)

You make it sound so easy.

I didn't give a shit about 75% of the stuff they talked about.Sports games, cheap gimmicks? As a member of the PC Gamer Master Race, I hope it flops regardless. The only good thing about it is that PCs won't be held back for a while which means better graphics.