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  1. I took a philosophy class about 7 years ago and one of the people we touched on in the class was Alan Watts. As I recall, he had an insightful way of looking at the world that resonated with me, although I don't remember too many specifics from his book The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are that we read, but thought maybe others are familiar with him and might have some interesting things to say on his behalf; and hopefully we'll get an interesting philosophical discussion going. Watts had a 'cameo' in the recent Spike Jonze film Her and I just saw a quote of his in a yt comment on the Stellardrone song Billions and Billions so felt like starting a thread about him.


    Here is the Alan Watts quote: "You are something the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is something that the whole ocean is doing"

    I had a what I simply might put as a perverted version of the guy's realization in the below video. There was no happy clear realization to the 'I'ness I discovered; just major freak out.


    I wish Alan Watts was a little less dry. I think his insights were onto something.

    PSYCHEDELIC EXPERIENCE IS ONLY A GLIMPSE OF GENUINE MYSTICAL INSIGHT, BUT A GLIMPSE WHICH CAN BE MATURED AND DEEPENED BY THE VARIOUS WAYS OF MEDITATION IN WHICH DRUGS ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY OR USEFUL. IF YOU GET THE MESSAGE, HANG UP THE PHONE. FOR PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS ARE SIMPLY INSTRUMENTS, LIKE MICROSCOPES, TELESCOPES, AND TELEPHONES. THE BIOLOGIST DOES NOT SIT WITH EYE PERMANENTLY GLUED TO THE MICROSCOPE, HE GOES AWAY AND WORKS ON WHAT HE HAS SEEN.



    - ALAN WATTS

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      Don't even get me started, man, because discourse on the multiverse is trippy wiggins.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulgin_Rating_Scale
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Hofmann

      Oh ok, I see that is going to be this kind of thread:
      http://spielzeugz.de/html5/liquid-particles.html

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      Don't even get me started, man, because discourse on the multiverse is trippy wiggins.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulgin_Rating_Scale
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Hofmann

      Oh ok, I see that is going to be this kind of thread:
      http://spielzeugz.de/html5/liquid-particles.html

      I guess I was hoping it would be more on the lines of this kind of thread:

      PLUS FOUR (++++) A rare and precious transcendental state, which has been called a 'peak experience', a 'religious experience,' 'divine transformation,' a 'state of Samādhi' and many other names in other cultures. It is not connected to the +1, +2, and +3 of the measuring of a drug's intensity. It is a state of bliss, a participation mystique, a connectedness with both the interior and exterior universes, which has come about after the ingestion of a psychedelic drug, but which is not necessarily repeatable with a subsequent ingestion of that same drug. If a drug (or technique or process) were ever to be discovered which would consistently produce a plus four experience in all human beings, it is conceivable that it would signal the ultimate evolution, and perhaps the end, of the human experiment.

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      I don't know man; you are a poignant writer yet voyage by chemical becomes a dime a dozen after a while for some starfish like myself.

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