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I'm thinking the DMP2013 might be worth one. There are definitely weak maps but look to be a fair deal of strong ones (more than 2012). Probably worth considering if there are at least 25 (give or take) high quality maps.

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Those never made it onto /idgames as far as I know, BTW. Don't know if intentional or not so I'm not going to reupload it myself at this time.

I hope there's another project this year. The results this year look to have considerably more rather nice maps than last. I've only played Obsidian's map (agree with SteveD it's very unique) but I've looked at all of them. Z86's map is a wonderful idea I can tell, and it looks beautiful. And DooMAD's map (collab with Exl this time) looks even better than his map last year which already was one of the highlights. Going back to 2012 there were only a handful of solidly good maps I can remember: 02, 13, 14, 15, maybe 16 (it's a bit weird), 18, and 25. Enough to browse around, but 2013 looks to clearly have the better showing. Too bad though that danne, darkreaver, and fiend haven't put anything in for 2013 (yet) and BaronOfStuff went more for a speedmap this time. Even some maps (this year) that are perhaps objectively lesser seem to have novelty to them, for example Scypek2's map I love the Wolfenstein remix music track and some of the ideas regardless of execution.

If there's a growing consensus towards 'Russian Doom Month', I might as well mention A.L.T. as a possibility also. Oh, and Heroes' Tales also. Not really quite contemporary, but where the consensus goes, so does the club.

I tried E5M3 from scratch on both HNTR and UV (so I could compare the two), as I am guessing Toby fully intends these levels to be pistol start compatible. Indeed there is basically no pistol/chaingun ammo except any that a zombie drops, but there are shotgunners galore, which collectively drop plenty of shotgun ammo (there's more enemies on UV than HNTR of course, but also more shotgunners, thus more shotgun ammo to go around). So I can only assume Toby intended for shotgun-oriented action here. That in mind, although I only played a small portion of the level, I don't really see the problem.

Oops, sorry overlooked that one! (It's odd, I remember it very clearly now that you mentioned it.) Added it in and since it's only half length I paired it up with another half length wad.

Looks like most plays are wrapping up, so here's what's been discussed for January - time to take a vote: 1) D2TWID 2) Concerned + another episode (see 5 for choices) 3) Hellbound 4) Whitemare + Map01-Map15 of Suitcase of Gor 5) Series of episodes of 2013 (In any order: Nex Credo + Swim With the Wales + Kuchitsu + Visions of Eternity + 900 Deep in the Dead) 6) Russian month! (Whitemare + Sacrement, OR A.L.T., OR Heroes' Tales) 7) Something else - specify 8) Skip a month

Oops, the name misspelling was a mistake. Will fix in post. Best idea for Nex Credo would probably be to polish it up, release it, and expand later if desired (or start a different wad) - so that considered, it could quite possibly be a good one to consider for next month - which would lend itself to the idea of episodes. Maybe call it 'Various Episodes from 2013' or something like that?

The only reason I didn't include Nex Credo is because it seems Jayextee kind of lost interest. If that's not the case, it's perfectly fair game. Of the ones I mentioned Dark Side of Deimos is possibly the weakest of the bunch so it could be replaced with Nex Credo. That now would have 29 days covered (instead of 27), but playing 900 Deep in 2-3 days (3 maps a day) should be quite manageable. It might be best to do Kuchitsu right after Swim With the Wales, to give everyone a breather!

Regarding the idea of episodes: Keeping this contemporary, it could be Visions of Eternity (9 levels) + Swim With the Wales (3 levels intro excluded) + Kuchitsu (6 levels) + Dark Side of Deimos (9 levels). Two of these are for Doom II and two for Doom I - total 27 maps, very close to the right amount. Would just need preferably another 4-6 level wad to squeeze in. Maybe 900 Deep in the Dead (9 levels, but they are 100 line levels, so 2 levels a day would be easy for that wad). Or perhaps do ZDCMP2? While it's only one level, it's so huge with so many areas that splitting it into half a week would be easy. Either wad I like that possible idea as well as the megawads going around. Would be nice mix between Doom I/II as well. It would seem the most plausible ideas (in no order) would be: 1) D2TWID 2) Concerned + additional episode 3) Several episodes 4) Hellbound (putting it last, but despite no mention of it yet it is definitely something that could be chosen) Probably a good time now to post in preferences & go from there.

I'm not convinced the lull is entirely because of the (i)wad choice, and even if it is, there is no reason to necessarily think that if a pwad is chosen, the lull will continue. I don't think a break in this monthly tradition is justified based on the premises given. It's probably time about now that people simply can cast their vote (a brief post) on this thread of D2TWID, Concerned, or whatever else they want, preferably but not necessarily contemporary. If truly no one posts a preference or any other form of interest, then maybe it is good to skip a month. But definitely skipping a month without at least allowing some voting does not seem to be warranted.

Nah, those maps are rather drawn out and boring TBH. And we're really due something contemporary (none since October). I'd say either D2TWID or Concerned is the best choice out there. Concerned is a bit short on maps so could do either Visions of Eternity (another very recent Doom I episode), Swim With the Wales, or Kuchitsu alongside it. Or - give Tarnsman a little motivation and do Suitcase of Gor to cover about two-thirds of the month!

I had played the demo of this in 2011. Did you make the existing levels worse? If not then they far from suck. :D

+1 Visions of Eternity and D64 for D2 (if it's finished in time) for best wad +1 Ty Halderman for lifetime achivement, but Randy would be a good one too