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  1. Warning: This will probably "trigger" some people.  This is an opinion about the recent "Dreamer" that was deported by the the U.S. Border Patrol.  My opinion is probably an expected one for some...so don't act surprised.  The point of this post is to encourage open discussion about what is currently a source of debate.  You are not forced to participate or read this.  Proceed at your own will.



    The "Dreamer" Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez wasn't simply deported.  He was asked by a border patrol agent to present his identification and didn't didn't have any.  It even says in this article from the Washington Post that he did not have identification on him, therefore making verification of the legality of his visit (he has a work permit and is attending welding school) impossible.  So this isn't a case of the "evil border patrol" or "evil Trump" deporting somebody.  This is a case of the guy didn't have his identification on him when he should have, making verification of his status impossible, therefore warranting the deportation.  I hope he is allowed back in once it is shown that he is legally allowed to be here.  But I won't condemn the U.S. Border Patrol for doing one of their jobs, which is deporting people who cannot prove that they are here legally.

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    2. Marn


      Sure, but the flaws in the current system need to be exposed, and reporting like this is how you rais awareness. It's not simply "condemning border patrol for doing their jobs," there's much more to it than that.

    3. Nine Inch Heels

      Nine Inch Heels

      I don't see anything bad about having a system in place that provides a certain degree of insight on who's "coming in". It's not the "coming in" that's the problem here, however messy the process in and off itself is. It's the "getting out for good" that needs an overhaul as well.


      You gotta think there's money on the line too. That guy, like it says in the article, was working a job while also attending school to carry his own weight to the best of his abilities. That was most likely "a good man" right there. He was paying taxes, and on top of that he had ambitions to become "a proper citizen".

      The way I understand it, when it comes to these so called "dreamers", the U.S. also put money on the line as well, and that's basically all getting wasted now, because of "antique" laws that nobody seemed to care about for a bunch of decades. Basically, "dreamers" are a time and money investment which, as it stands, can get thrown out the window on a moment's notice, and that's just sad for all involved.


      Chances are that guy is now taking a bullet, and one can only hope that this will wake up a few people in the right places. Not that I have high hopes when it comes to Trump, but maybe we're in for a surprise at some point, I don't know.

    4. Tracer


      The system is undeniably flawed.  If it wasn't flawed, we wouldn't have millions of people here from all over the world who have risked deportation by coming in undocumented.  Some of them have proven to be threats, sure.  Most of them are decent enough people though.  But decent or not, there is no way for the people or the government to know who is a threat and who isn't without proper background checks.  Furthermore, getting documented is an accountability system.  If you come here and fuck up, they've already got your name, photo, know where you're from, and have a good idea on where to find you.  If you're a ghost in the system, it makes finding you that much harder.  Not impossible, but unreasonably harder.  I feel that the amount of red tape needed to get through to become a citizen is way too high, but I also don't know what kind of a backlog there is, how long a thorough background check takes on citizens of foreign countries, what that process entails, how deep it goes...there are a lot of variables that I am unaware of that make it impossible for me to have a well informed opinion on the process.  All I can say is that it seems like it takes way too long and if it didn't, people might be less likely to try and squeeze in around it.