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  1. If you play any good maps/projects this year, list the following...

    * Name of the Wad
    * Author
    * Download Location (idgames link, preferably)

    Do not post other crap in this thread, only post about wads. If you would like to post about something OTHER than a good wad, enter a TITLE like...

    * Best Mapper
    * Worst Wad
    * Best Multiplayer Map
    * Mordeth Award

    This will help me keep track of worthy projects. Thank you.

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    2. Scuba Steve

      Scuba Steve

      We had a big discussion about this earlier this year (in fact, in this very thread)

      It was a general consensus that Strife/Heretic/Hexen mods were OK to nominate. There really are no communities for those games and they really are part of the Doom family.

    3. Creaphis

      Creaphis

      In the same way as how ZanZan and Foreverhood have been honored on this site before, it makes good sense to consider quality Heretic/Hexen/Strife projects for awards (if any are ever made). "Doom" for me is more about a hierarchy of engines and philosophy of game design than about any particular set of resources. Heretic is Doom, Hexen is Doom, and Doom is Doom.

      But at the same time, one could assign such worthy projects a "Mauloward" instead.

    4. esselfortium

      esselfortium

      Well, Chex Quest 3 won a Cacoward last year, so...

      Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Chex Quest, and Hacx, while some are clearly more advanced and differentiated from Doom than others, are effectively commercial Doom TCs when considered by the standards of what Doom mods can do nowadays. Tons of features that originated in Heretic, Hexen, and Strife are used all over the place in ZDoom mods. With advanced source ports, the only thing that truly differentiates modding for Doom and modding other Doom-engine games anymore is the set of resources used as a base and certain elements of gameplay that would be expected from each respective game.

      A modder could make a Doom mod that plays like Hexen.wad, or a Hexen hub consisting of Hell Revealed slaughterfests if they really wanted to. While they're undeniably separate games, when it comes to modding them they've all become so intermixed that it would be rather arbitrary to disqualify worthy projects from Cacowards due to their base IWAD.

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