LowGcifer

Wow, it’s cool and crazy to read that people actually enjoyed my MAP 26 for 1K Lines 2! Thank you for your reviews! If TMMC 1 is lucky enough to be chosen, I look forward to reading your thoughts on my *numerous* maps for that project.

Just stopping by to confirm that I am not dead and am still going to submit MAP28 by the deadline.

@Horus Thank you for your feedback! I'm glad you overall enjoyed the map. Your feedback is quite constructive and helpful. This will sound sadistic, but I'm glad the cave portion was hard. That was intended to be a particularly hard part of the map, despite its relatively low amount of monsters. @Clippy on the contrary, I'm sorry you did not enjoy my map. Just looking at your thumbnail was a bummer, haha. Normally my slaughter maps have some sort of difficulty balancing, but this one does not. I hope this doesn't deter you from playing any maps you may see me release in the future, as I promise I normally incorporate difficulty balancing so that my maps are accessible to everyone. In fact, I don't even normally make slaughter maps; this is only my second one. But anyway, thank you for playing! I appreciate it.

Here's version 1.1. It makes the lava damaging and I *tried* to make the rocket launcher more obvious. Suburbs Remake.zip

The feedback here has been nicer than i expected. Thank you! As for the lava not being damaging, that is not intentional. I actually told myself "Don't forget to make the lava a pain sector" at least 5 different times, and this still happened. I'll have an update shortly. ' Also, the "cifer" in LowGcifer is pronounced like it is in "Lucifer". "Low-G-sif-er".

I submitted this to Steve a few days but am just now getting around to posting it on Doomworld, for no other reason than I am forgetful, and previously exited the page upon seeing I had to put the WAD in a zip file. Yes, I am that lazy. Map name: Slaughter at the Burbs Author: LowGcifer Music: MAP16 music Sky: Doom 2 City sky. Port designed for: GZDoom. This is a UDMF format map. Multiplayer: Oh god no Gimmicks attempted: Remaking a Doom 1/Doom 2 map (Suburbs) Author comments: I have no idea if this is any good. Have fun! Map takes up MAP16. Suburbs Remake.zip

I think that there’s nothing wrong with slaughtermaps centered around BFG spam. The weapon doesn’t inherently make slaughter “easy” or “mindless” imo. The actual map design is a much more important factor to creating challenging and/or interesting encounters. The BFG is an incredibly fun weapon. It’s not automatically an “easy” weapon. CAN the BFG be a room clearing weapon? Yes. Can it also be just another tool to help you deal with a swarm of enemies? Also yes.

As the author of this map, I agree wholeheartedly. We are talking about what to do with this map, either to move it or beef it up. The map was made in approximately two days, due to an issue with an empty map slot at the last minute, hence why it is so simple. And thank you for your kind words! The general consensus on this map seems to be that many people who aren't fans of slaughter have a lot of fun with this. It warms my heart.

Scythe is my favorite megawad of all time. I plan to make this my first Ironman run.

Telling the player “well you were supposed to do this” is never a good look. Just an FYI.

Hehehe, finished MAP30. Now I see why it's called Doom Zero... very clever! Great job! This was a very fun WAD. I definitely will be replaying this.

Plutonia would still be beloved had it been just a PWAD. Evilution, on the other hand, would just be known as a precursor to Eternal Doom and Icarus: Alien Vanguard.

You have to use ZDoom/GZDoom to play anything in Doom 2 that isn't MAP01-MAP32.

I'll take E3M6, as I love making hell maps. Also, while the maps are being made in Doom format, do they have to be compatible with vanilla? Seeing that the WAD will use MAPINFO, I assume the maps only have to be limit removing in compatibility.

This. It is very tempting to make something that looks very pretty, but when you realize you made a circle strafe festival, you come to regret all those lines you drew very quick. As for formats, I recommend sticking with Doom or Boom format at first. UDMF is great, but with UDMF comes GZDoom-isms. Also, test your map in its intended source port. All too often do I see WADs from new mappers being advertised as being in Doom or Boom format, and then only working in ZDoom because that's all the mapper tested them in. It's okay if you make a Boom format map that only works in ZDoom, but make that clear when you release the map. A lot of people (including me) will automatically use PRBoom+ for anything that's said to be in Boom format, without any disclaimers about the map only working in ZDoom. It's inconvenient when I find the part of the map that doesn't function in PRBoom+. I love this advice because I fell into this trap the day I downloaded DB2. Although a note about episode replacements: They are a great stepping stone between making standalone maps and making a full blown megawad. But still, making an episode right when you start mapping (although it is FAR more feasible than a megawad) is still not a great idea for the reasons NIH has already gone over. Personally, the megawad I started so early in my mapping career is still in development, but it is not a top priority because learning and growing as a mapper is far more important than releasing a WAD that isn't the best it could have been. Slow and steady wins the race! Oh, and a note about detail. My personal rule is that as long as the map has about as much detail as the IWADs, it has an acceptable amount of detail. Personally I like to detail more than that, but it's a base level. Don't worry about whether people will think your map is detailed enough. Good gameplay is what matters. We're playing a game from 1993, worrying about the amount of detail in a map isn't a good use of your time.

I am interested in taking MAP22, if that's okay.

My guess is that they'll feel similar to the Doom II City levels. Abstract and Twilight Zone-ish.

It was just to be unique from Doom II in terms of episode order. There were a lot of different episode themes discussed. I personally recommended throwing Jungle in as a theme but we decided it'd be frustrating to pull off without Plutonia textures. I think seeing City as the final episode will be interesting because most city levels are not balanced to be placed at the end of a WAD.

I played through your first map, so I was happy to see you made another one! This map was infinitely better than your first map. For one, it's actually fun (I'm sorry I couldn't help myself). The rooms were varied and well balanced. I liked the room with the red key a lot. I liked how I felt like I was going to be lost by the fact that there was a hub and you had to find the keys yourself, but in reality I knew exactly where to go and never felt like I was walking in circles. It's a nice incorporation of a little hub. I also liked that enemies would teleport into the hub whenever you grabbed a key. I also think detail-wise the map was a huge step up. It felt more like an id style level and less like... your first level. The only gripe I had was that I felt some of the floor height variations (namely the first room and the room with the shotgunners surrounding the ascending pyramid) were a bit steep. I think it would look nicer if they weren't as steep. Another tip I'd give you is to follow one of Romero's rules, which is to change the floor height when you change the floor texture. There are a lot of people who break this rule in a way that looks nice, but for someone who is new to mapping I'd follow it. Other than those two "complaints", great job! I'm sorry I harped on your first map. I promise I'm not that big of a jerk. I will definitely play your third map when it comes out! EDIT: Despite my critiques, I will add that you are already a better techbase mapper than I am. I struggle with techbase maps. I have a hard time coming up with details. I much prefer making maps in Hell.

That wasn't just a good first level, that was a good level. Period. I am shocked that this is your first map. I played on UV. I only have two "criticisms" (the first one isn't even a criticism, just some general advice for the future.) If you were going for a Doom 1 or 2 feel in terms of detail, then you nailed it. However, I'd still work on making maps with more detail so you can expand your map making skill set. The map was appropriately detailed for a Doom 1/2 style map, but it's something you can work on for different styles of maps. Maybe I took a wrong turn, but I think having the player fight before getting a shotgun is a little unfair. Granted, the chaingunner was AT the shotgun, but it's still not terribly fun. That's the only enemy placement issue in the whole level. I will definitely be keeping on eye on any future releases you put out!

I just played this because I'm always down to support new WAD makers. Here are some notes, which may sound very similar to what Simomarchi said. The Revenant room is a pretty cool concept! I would place a couple extra rockets for the first few ammo drops, however. It was very easy to run out of rockets at first. While the concept behind the Revenant room was pretty cool, the room itself was bland. Once all the pillars were down it was just a green rectangle. I would add some decoration to break up the vast green walls and ceiling. The red skull key was on top of the lava. While it was easy grabbing the key without taking damage, a rule of thumb I follow is to never force the player onto damaging sectors. The lava damage should be punishment for falling off the platform. I would move the red skull key onto the platform/bridge. The Hell Knight/Caco room is a cool concept, but the execution struggled. I would add a little bit more ammo (just in case infighting fails) and tinker with the room and monster placement so infighting is more likely to occur at an ideal time. I found I had to kill many of the Cacos myself because they chased me into the hallway. A Cyberdemon fight at the end is a cool idea. I would give some more cell ammo, however. Killing a Cyberdemon in just two BFG shots can be tough without invincibility or a ton of health. The random teleportation is not a cool idea. The second room (with the chaingunners and Arachnotrons) is a little brutal. I would tone it down a little bit. Maybe replace some of the chaingunners with something else? i know I might have sounded harsh, but I don't mean to crush your dreams! I think it's very cool you tinkered with different concepts for such an early WAD in your map making career! Keep mapping and you'll only get better. The most important thing to remember is that regardless of what other people say, you should always map in a way that YOU enjoy. Nice job!

GZDoom and PRBoom+ are my preferred ports. PRBoom+ is mostly used for the IWADs and any "old" PWADs. I use GZDoom for almost anything released after Scythe 2, even if the WAD doesn't require any G/ZDoom features. It just feels "right" to use a modern source port for a modern WAD, but that just applies to me.

Those screenshots look like something right up my alley. I'm definitely adding this to the backlog of WADs I have to play!

I'm very glad to see I am not the only person who moves their head in real life to (try to) dodge projectiles.