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  1. I think I am going to get a new gun this year. I am currently pondering these options:

    M1 Garand
    The real thing, these are decommisioned guns from the U.S. Army sold by the Civillian Marksmanship Program.

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    History
    Not Going to be available much longer
    Should be pretty accurate

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    Fairly Expensive ($450-500)
    Luck of the draw as to what rifle they send you
    Uses common .30-06 ammunition, the gas system cannont hand many commercial loads so therefore handloading may be nessecary
    Heavy
    Kicks Hard

    Yugoslavian SKS
    Unissued battle rifle. Ten round fixed magazine, some versions come with a bayonet and muzzle mounted NATO spec rifle grenade launcher.

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    Cheap ($200)
    Cheapish ammo

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    Even unissued will probably need refinishing due to being stored in comsoline
    Not terribly accurate
    Questionable quality

    Slug Gun
    I want to go deer hunting this fall. A new slug shotgun may cost less than buying a slug barrel for one of the guns I already own.

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    Practical use, will not just be a range gun
    I know my shotguns, and how to pick a good one

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    Kicks like the dickens
    Already have two shotguns
    Probably will not see much use besides hunting

    Delayed Gratification
    You need to be 21 to buy a handgun, and in May 2008 I will be. If I saved I could buy something really special, like this: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=007B&cat_id=051&type_id=003

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    I would get a really nice gun
    Handguns are a totally different form of shooting
    Ammo is affordable
    Damn that is a fine gun

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    Have to wait

    Keep a Lookout
    Sometimes a used gun comes in that is a steal, like a pump 6mm deer/varminting combo rifle I saw this summer for $250.

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    Good Deal
    Could Be Useful

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    Not a sure thing


    I might be able to combine one of these with the pistol if I am lucky. Anyways, vote!

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    2. Dr. Zin

      Dr. Zin

      Holy shit, CMP just got in a bunch of M1 Carbines that they are grading and will put up for sale in March!

    3. Naked Snake

      Naked Snake

      Dr. Zin said:

      Holy shit, CMP just got in a bunch of M1 Carbines that they are grading and will put up for sale in March!


      The .30 cal bullet it fires sucks though.

      You should get a pistol-caliber carbine, like the Beretta one that can easily switch calibers, like 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP.

    4. Dr. Zin

      Dr. Zin

      The .30 Carbine round only is defficient when you are comparing it to the contemporary battle rifle rounds, like the .30-06, .303 British or the 7.62x54r.

      The .30 Carbine far surpasses most pistol rounds. The muzzle energy is similar to a .44 Magnum, and at 100 yards it actually has retained more energy than said magnum because it is more ballistically effiecient. There is simply no comparision between the .30 Carbine and auto pistol rounds. Remember, the M1 Carbine was designed to replace many 1911 pistols with a weapon that was more accurate and more effective.

      On another note, if you want to get a Garand or a Carbine I'd get my stuff together and order one from the CMP. The Carbines are probably going to last only a couple of months and the higher grade Garands are getting rapidly depleted.

      Ordering is pretty easy too. You fill out a form and have it notarized and then provide evidence of participating in a marksmanship activity (a copy of a Hunter's Education card will suffice) and membership in a recognized club (you can join the Garand Collectors Association for something like $20 a year). You send the papers and in a few weeks you get the rifle. Pretty damn cool.

      http://www.odcmp.com

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