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  1. Yeah, so... I'm a bit late in the game. I'm in my mid-20's and only really dove into "programming" 6 months ago. HTML, Javascript, Actionscript, and whatnot. Simple stuff, right?

    Not for me and my hardened grey matter. Fuck, this is a pain. For every tutorial I look up to see how to do one thing, I have to read three more articles that explain whatever the first tutorial assumed I knew. I appreciate that I'm learning from people who know better, but something's lost here.

    After a year or so of screwing around with HTML, I can do some pretty cool stuff(considering that I'm a left-brain type and my art does most of the work). But I still "need" a WYSIWYG editor to get rid of that feeling of shooting in the dark. My partner always tries to convince me to get into the habit of editing with Notepad. He also thinks that I should start learning .NET. Great, except there's one problem with that.

    My programming experience prior to this totals up to about one year of screwing around in Commodore Basic. After that, I focused on music and art. Now-- I'm sure if I stuck to it, I could've gone from that to DOS Basic, VB, and eventually something like Java. But that's not what happened. I DON'T HAVE THE BRAIN FUNCTION TO BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A WHITE PAGE FULL OF CODE. And that's just because of the path I chose to take. I can learn most songs in under an hour, I have what people call "perfect pitch"-- but I have to double-check every time I type "<td>" to make sure I don't mean "<tr>".

    Hey, I'm aware that there are mnemonic hints to just about every command, and that every person has the capacity to learn enough code to make Pong. But don't tell me that Python is "easy" because I know that in your head, you're comparing it to assembly or some other such nonsense. And I also assume you have 10+ years of experience in programming, and C++ is probably the tenth language you've used in your lifetime.

    Back when I was getting the hang of typing HTML tags, I learned how to make input boxes and such. Yay, I thought, now I can make my pages actually do stuff! If only I knew how... so I ask a friend of mine. "Oh, you want to pass variables and stuff? You need to learn XML or something." Terrific, at least my coding expertise isn't in danger of being FUNCTIONAL for the time being. What the fuck does it take? Maybe I should bury a time capsule so that when I'm 50 I can remind myself to get around to writing Breakout without help. Yeah, that can be the last thing I ever did on this planet.

    So, whatever. Tutorials suck, experts suck, and this guy telling me that I should learn more shit so I can help him write this program can go suck a dick. I'll learn it at my own pace, thanks. Or I'll take a class. Regardless of which, I can guarantee that the phrase "pulling teeth" will be used pretty often in this little adventure.

    I'm waiting for my first real paycheck, so I can start on that sound studio.

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    2. Fredrik


      The problem with OOP is that it encourages you to create abstract meaningless objects which don't perform any actual functions.

    3. deathbringer
    4. Linguica


      Fredrik said:

      The problem with OOP is that it encourages you to create abstract meaningless objects which don't perform any actual functions.

      While I can sort of wrap my head around why OO is a good thing, whenever I try to code something in OO I always end up thinking "why didn't I just do this directly instead of creating all these dumb objects?"

      Anyways Numbermind, try learning PHP, it's ridiculously easy. It's doesn't require you to learn any of the boring maintenance shit that something like C++ has, and instead you just plunge in and start writing algorithms.