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  1. http://andphilosophy.com/the-books/

    ^ Came across this site the other day. The Twilight and Metallica ones initially made me think it might be a spoof website, but apparently it's legit because you can buy these books on Amazon etc. I know a true philosopher will tell you that philosophy is everywhere, but I have a hard time imagining who would take the insipid plot of Twilight so seriously.

    Anyway, has anyone heard about or read any of them? I like pop culture and I like philosophy so I'd love to give one of these books a go. The Terminator and Lost ones particularly interest me.

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    2. Maes

      Maes

      DuckReconMajor said:

      I don't understand. Those people have set goals: create better computer hardware, sell more stock etc. Philosophers, among other things, try to find ideas on what the overall goals of humanity should be.


      Depending on who you believe, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did some of both. Well, with a particular emphasis on the selling part.

      If you are looking for a "pure" representative of the "set goals" category, think Steve Wozniak or Jeff Minter. A pure representative of the philosophy category would be Richard Stallman or Dijkstra.

      The catch is that "pure" engineers are seldom famous outside of nerd cycles, and "pure" modern-day philosophers are seldom known outside their communities, unlike Gates and Jobs, even though the latter ultimately boil down to salesmen.

    3. Phml

      Phml

      Who said anything about "serious study"? And why would you care if it's a worthless way to spend your time anyway?


      All I'm saying is, when philosophy is the name of the game, I don't really see a difference in value between Lost, Terminator and Twilight. To imply things you dislike are worse than things you like on an intellectual level just strikes me as funny when we're talking about popular culture, designed to appeal to our lowest instincts.

      I don't understand. Those people have set goals: create better computer hardware, sell more stock etc. Philosophers, among other things, try to find ideas on what the overall goals of humanity should be.


      (In addition to what Maes said...)

      Entrepreneurs don't sell stock. You're thinking of brokers. Entrepreneurs are people who create value and businesses (plural being key).

      Philosophy is first and foremost about figuring out the universe, no matter how the modern world twisted its original meaning. You can't understand the universe if you don't get its laws. There's a reason most important philosophers from the past were also groundbreaking mathematicians.

    4. DuckReconMajor

      DuckReconMajor

      When I said stock I meant like merchandise not like wall street heh.

      And okay I see what you're saying. I thought you meant that through these professions, they are being philosophers. And yes I agree with Maes I consider those people to be philosophers too.

      Have you guys read Plato's Republic? It does discuss a lot of these questions. (And yes, Plato/Socrates felt that math/mathematicians were essential to philosophy)

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