DeePsea

[quote]ME: An endless list of banalities. YOU: The point is, all this stuff is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion and adds nothing to it. Fraggle said that many programmers don't need money to code, and he's right. Whether other programmers do need money is irrelevant/quote]It's no more or no less relevant. It's a banality (look it up). Your own prejudice has nothing to do with this. He said "I should add that many programmers do not get motivation from money" and I just said that "Many programmers get motivation from money:) " NEITHER really added anything to the discussion - and that was the point. Why would one be more relevant than the other (besides your own opinion one way or the other)? I wrote the opposite and it's just as true as what he wrote. In fact, originally you thought I was contradicting (not realizing my point), yet you agreed that "both statements are true" and indeed they are:) So you already agreed that I also was RIGHT. Now which is it, we both are right or we both are wrong. So both are relevant or both are irrelevant:)

Who said there was a contradiction? Just showing the simplicity of those kind of statements. You can say just about anything and it will be true. So I made another sentence that was just as true as the first. Water is wet. What's there to argue about? Or what insight does a comment like that show? Another example: "Some" people lack a sense of humor. Or how about: "Many" people don't have a clue about the that simple statements. An endless list of banalities.

For starting out, nothing beats the shareware editors for beginner documentation on how to make a level. Download DoomCad, DeePsea or WadAuthor and review their help on how to create levels. Terminology, typical mistakes and "how to" get covered differently by each. So depending on your left or right brain, one should make sense. This will give you a good basic understanding or concepts to use in whatever editor you end with:)

Yes there is an automated way to do this - use DeePsea's Import/Merge. Press F7 1. Select Import/Merge. 2. Select a target file (can be your existing level or a new name). 3. Select Add Lump Files (this is your texture wad). 4. Optionally, Delete anything you don't want from the list shown (if any) 5. Press Save and it's a done deal. ========================== Wintex and XWE also merge, but in a different way.

Can you email me that level in the form where you have the problem (or post it somewhere). Just because an editors says they are ALL closed doesn't always mean they are. Too hard to explain:) "whats does DEAF mean?" The enemies are DEAF.

That makes sense. Different software, different load points, different footprint. Is that enough explanation?

Mmm, nobody reads the help. Both WA and DeePsea clearly explain this (probably DOOMCAD too), but here goes: The "tag" is not related to a sector number, nor any other object in the level. It's a number that is paired between a linedef and a sector. (I'm going to assume you know these terms.) So what you do is put a "tag" on the linedef and you put the SAME "tag" in the sector. It just has to be the same number. That connects the linedef to the sector in terms of telling the "action" on the linedef (called a special) where to lower, raise, squish, burn, a sector. Doors are made with "0" height. Look at existing levels to see how they are made and read the help. WA is a bit clumsy to use as a "detective" for learning since the feedback is only partial. It pays off to take some time to just browse the help stuff. Especially take the time to go through any sample levels that have explanations (hint). PS: A sector is NOT an area - it's just a height reference.

It's not exactly the same thing .. that is to "figure out" each forum... I have slightly more interesting things to do with my time:) Generally, when one moderates in a forum, one moderates in a forum .. period. It's not "class" limited. Exploit that bug .. come'on where's your sense of adventure.

HUH? Are you not the moderator? You just posted in the front page that you "All I can do is edit or delete posts". Umm, seems if you can do that, that indeed it's back to threat not advice.

Now that's a truly BAD suggestion. NOT running scandisk is a surefire way to totally roast a system. Maybe that explains why you have these odd problems. You do understand how the FAT system works right? Barring buying some other software (that does that same thing), what exactly do you think a person should do when a system crashes? NOTHING? Installing again? It's not a window (DOS really) problem. It works fine in 98 DOS mode.

Come on. 'Else this thread is gonna turn up missing' is a ..? What do you want to call it .. advice:) You're not understanding. I said nothing about you doing anything per se. IF means IF. It's a way to operate. On the old threads .. yawn. Great .. keep it that way. See rhetorical.

Of course .. if it crashes. For one, the program "hooks" into the mouse driver. (I used exactly the same BC DPMI software). Secondly, if it overwrites the driver, goodbye mouse - and it does have overwriting problems -- that's why you crash:) I don't think deleting the directory will fix anything. If it fixed it for you that means you had a corrupted file structure and didn't know it. Be sure to run scandisk after a machine "locks up" in ANY mode (win or DOS).

I doubt this is a problem. "DOOM" (as supposedly trademarked) and "FreeDOOM" is just not the same name. A trademark is very specific and doesn't include names with a "part of" the trademark in it too. The only times that becomes an issue if there is confusion to the end consumer. FreeDOOM and DOOM are not remotely similar. I can call something "DOOM whatever" with no problem. Here's some ideas to convince you. First, did you notice that ALL the variations were supposedly trademarked separately. Why would they bother to do that? Second, look around and you'll see lots of other "parts of" trademark names. Third: remember all those "DOOM level" on CRroms - WITHOUT permission. Why could they do that? PS: I'm not even sure they trademarked it .. just an observation. And last .. this is NOT a commercial venture

Xdoom gave a good list to check out for somebody just looking around. He'll immediately chuck Wintex (does next to nothing in that area), Windeu is err, Windeu. Doubt he'll like that one. The remaining have good help. Just depends on how far along he is in level editing. If he likes drawing and prefabs, plus get the total job done the quickest way possible - it sort of narrows it down:) Not everyone is happy wasting time shuffling prefabs around, rules or no rules. PS: You don't do very large levels though, since WA refuses to load those. Try the levels I mentioned:)

Cool - now exhale. Were you changing ceiling/floor heights with the switch?

Oops - you had each kitten for each letter. "Threating" is just not a good way to moderate. Do it when it happens, not "IF" it may happen. And who cares if old threads "come back"? One has to be careful that one's own personal tastes don't become a dictatorship of sorts. Old, new, it's all the same. Now why did you do what you did? Bored? Trying to eliminate all arguments is sort of like watching paint dry.

Your kittens didn't all show up. So for punishment you'll have to endure. It is a nice thread. This is like very very very (is that enough very's) tame. Don't let the "job" get to your head. If you want to move it, just DO IT - don't threaten. No thread is that big a deal. All turns invisible over a short period of time (no attention span on the web you know:) PS: OTOH, for a constant source of asinine stuff see--> deadie. That'll keep you busy. It helps to be consistent in whatever mode you want to operate in:)

Dear L-alt+129-t, blah blah, Sincerely, D-alt+130-alt+130-p

Suggestion - learn how to quote. Very confusing. Copying a style is also very [see Lame] and of course reinforces my whole point that you just "want to get on top" regardless of the lack of logic [a common male ego thing]. Nothing of the kind. You are a poopie. Does that make you one? You see, throwing around accusations is a very lame tactic I'm accustomed to. When people get stuck in an online argument they both deny .. deny.. deny.. and make stuff up. Where did I start anything? It's in you head kid [a mental figure of speech]. Like I said, are you a mind reader? I meant nothing more and nothing less than what I explained. Any attempts to fabricate something out of that is just trying to cause trouble. Facts: I answered the question and wrote "him" as a little joke. He knows who I am [and you didn't know that did you!]. His reply above shows he doesn't really understand English - picks up bits and pieces and is a bit arrogant enough to believe he actually knows what I wrote [seems he wants to join the pissing contest]. He's French after all (come'on any country that makes it a crime to publish a web site in English has a problem). No assuming about it. You were and are. Period. Jesus, you even quote your own "Don't make fun of the way X-DOOM talks.." What exactly was that? First you ASSUMED that I was making fun (in the bad way). Secondly, you ASSUMED that he and I don't know each other. [Get it yet] I'm laughing again how you admit "I wasn't paying attention to the main question and now claim "that doesn't mean anything!". Doesn't mean anything? My boy, if you jump in not paying attention it means you jumped in just to cause trouble. Thinking somehow you have the right and the knowledge to do so. QED [look it up] (Of course in most arguments I have online the other person has no clue that technically the argument is over, but it goes on and on and on .. blah)

You haven't got a clue what I'm writing, do you? And now you get a smart stick pointing up there. I didn't care about "him" and even thinks it's funny. But you do have an attitude problem. Although you think you can read English 100%, your actions show you read in the same way you write - slight hiccups.

That last statement can cause a lot of arguments, laughing. At one time I was considering some way of having a "student" registration for like $15 total. Never could figure out a way to make sure one was really a student that was easy, verifiable and more or less acceptable. However, I have done "group" registrations where the price was $15 each for a group of 5 people at once.

You are correct, however it's usually not the vertices, but the sector assignments on the sidedefs.

My my, you really think you have point eh? Ok smarty pants Read my lips <this is war talk> More lip reading <more war talk> My my, so you are a mind reader <and even more wt> If you say so <see, this can be fun> About what? Nice try at trying to change the subject. IOW, why did YOU jump into this accusing me of things you know nothing about? And now you are evading the point You made a small ASSUME out of yourself by making an accusation that is simply not true. I answered the question right up front. How about that. That just shows you are a newbie. I'm always this way. And I love a battle of wits .. and .. facts. Maybe I'm showing off to you .. <laughing> Whose problem? Go back and see what you did/are doing. You jumped into a conversation not knowing shit about me and presume a whirl of B.S from you would go unchallenged. Try to UNDERSTAND what I wrote and not SKIM over like you did the first time and as you are doing now. To make sure you stick to something objective (and not go off on some wild witch hunt) these are the relevant topics: 1. Did I answer the question? 2. Am I making fun of X or do I really care he uses 'him'? But if you want to make this a pissing contest .. fine.

I hope you don't mind me laughing. On the one hand you (and everyone) want flexibility and options. Then on the other hand nobody wants to actually set the options. Just human nature though .. and I'm guilty of the same thing. However, there is nothing to really change. The options are there only for weird situations, texture defaults or for color tastes:) For example, it one actually wanted to deliberately put lines on top of each other without merging. The ROR thing needed that feature. So like MS Word, PSP and any other full featured pgm with lots of options and features, there's no need to set anything. Only when I'm doing something a bit different do I check out the options - and that's exactly how one should treat the DeePsea options. The new toolbars directly solve the problem of common commands, like snap, grid and all that stuff. You wouldn't believe how many times I was asked about those. I'd be interested to learn when and how you solve the DCK problem.

In light of the topic "Name Things are missing and you wish to have for the Doom community" Is that "idiots are missing" and you wish you had them? OK - I'm being mean:)