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Heh. I'm back.

Mordeth all the way. Mordeth is the only one I've ever seen which made me sit up and go "holy crap." That is not to say, however, that I think the others are crappy or in any way bad. I'm simply looking forward to Mordeth more.

Heh. I figured something like that was the case.

Heh. It wasn't even a leak. If you check the site that whoever linked in the very first post, they have an update from Gabe Newell of valve - it was OMFG M4D H4X J0. Pretty crazy stuff. Someone is pretty 1337. Not that I approve of their actions, but still.

Uh...dude, it's your system. Runs beautifully over here. No problems. It's a little slow (which is shocking, given my system specs) but otherwise it's great. We've already LANned it, too, after a manner of speaking. Good stuff. I haven't experienced any of the problems you're talking about.

It's your data files, dude. Not the .exe file.

Not quite. Heh.

I still have yet to see a game do NVG properly.

Hey, you'n me both. :`(

I'm sure most here already know my feelings on the subject (because I've expounded upon it at great length numerous times) but, well - I find Doom to be pretty average - maybe a little above-average. I mean, sure, I played it back in the day and back in the day it was awesome! Nothing like it! But what made it awesome? Was it the intuitive and captivating gameplay? The creative and thematically varied level design? The imaginative enemy roster? The balanced weapons? No. One thing made Doom as awesome as it was, and that was the technological achievement. Nothing before was as impressive and it wasn't because anything in the game particularly stood out as being really shocking or impressive, it was because it was THREE-DEE MAN WOO OMFG etc ad infinitum. Now, you might say, "Yeah but no game previous had the variety of enemies" or "yeah but no game previous had such varied environments" but the fact of the matter is that that's simply not true. What IS true is that no game previous had done these things in a 3D (or really, 3D-look environment), and that's why it sticks in our minds as a truly exceptional game to this day, when, in reality, it was merely an above-average game. You might find it unfair to compare a game which defined a genre to anything later, but only if you compare them on absolute terms. If you compare them in relative terms, it's perfectly valid and in many cases, Doom simply comes out behind. How about Blood? How about the original System Shock? (which, by the way, wasn't much more advanced than Doom and was even behind in some ways) I'm not trying to make anyone lose interest in the game - I still play permutations of Doom every so often, myself - I simply want to end this fanboyish "OMG DOOM IS THE BEST FPS EVER" nonsense, because that's exactly what it is - nonsense. If Doom is your favorite FPS (and there's nothing wrong with that), at least acknowledge that it is due to nostalgia and/or personal taste rather than the quality of the game, because - to be frank - the game is simply not perfect. [edit]Just as a sidenote, am I the ONLY person in the entire world who agreed with the largest portion of Gamespy's "Top 25 Most Overrated Games" segment?[/edit] [edit2]Heh. All that ranting and I didn't even answer the thread's question. Where would I rank Doom? Somewhere in the top 40%. Unreal is most likely my favorite pure FPS, with my favorite general first-person game being a four-way tie between Morrowind, Daggerfall, Deus Ex, and System Shock 2 (though I readily admit that System Shock 1 was a better game, I just can't play it worth crap).[/edit2]

Uh...apparently I was still cookied as Katarhyne on my mom's machine. Pardon. Heh.

Dude. Again, owned like a bitch. Good stuff. Moby? That sounds more like Klubbed to Death to me.

Dude. Owned like a bitch. I gotta say something, though - I want AndrewB or one of those dumbfucks who says "OMG 60 FPS IS ENOUGH" or anysuch comments to try this out after having played ZdoomGL at 35FPS for ages. There's no freakin' comparison. It's just ridiculous. Great job. Keep it up, eh? Just a quick note, while I'm thinking about it - I'm getting some extremely severe artifacting in the form of microscopic "holes" in the architecture that move around constantly. I can make a vid if you'd really like, but I'm pretty sure they'll show up on screenshots. It's not a huge deal but it IS distracting, and pretty ugly. I don't get this in any other 3D port, nor in other 3D apps. Graphics card drivers and settings make no difference. Why is this?

And actually, a "real" piano isn't actually any better than an Andromeda. If that's the one I'm thinking of, it's a REAL analog synth. It produces perfect tones, just as a piano would. Gorgeous stuff. I'd kill for one. But then, I'd just play with it a bit and sell it, because I can't play it.

I doubt he has the required technical knowledge to extract and convert them. Heh. On a sidenote - FUCKING SPACE CONSIDERATIONS? WHAT THE FLYING MOTHERFUCK?! Final Doom, Doom2, and Doom hardly come to 60MB - and that's with all the resources duplicated; i.e. simply adding up the wadfile sizes. What, did the game have 610MB of redbook audio? If so, then that's simply moronic. Period.

Alright - it's way early, I'm tired, and I've been running around TNT MAP16 for the better part of thirty minutes. And I still haven't found the blue key. So I figure, I must be missing something incredibly obvious. Somebody tell me how dumb I am.

Wow. Great of all you guys to help me out, especially since you all hate me. Or something. Unfortunately, I'm even dumber than I originally had even speculated and not only did I not even need the blue key, I couldn't even get to the area wherein you get to the teleporter to get the blue key. I had missed the skull switch in the all-wood room in the...west part of the level (I think?), and so I had completely missed the underground, southern area. Feh. I still haven't finished the level. I killed the two mancubi in the huge marble room, went through the teleporter in the smallish adjoining room (after collecting the red key) and then hit the switch it spawned me in front of...and now I can't figure out what to do. I guess I'll go see if I can't watch the demo in Eternity - or get PRBoom working properly. [edit] Welp. Got PRBoom working (putting it its own folder helped for whatever reason) and watched the demo. EDGE just sucks. It fails to properly build the stairs (or, in fact, build them at all) down to the level exit. Oh well. IDCLIP it is. Thanks anyway, guys. [/edit]

Hmm. Had been hanging around a BBS called Zero Hour, whereupon the owner downloaded many things from USEnet. I had seen the Doom demo but as my system at the time was the absolute baseline for the game I didn't bother downloading it, and then very shortly later I played it on a Tandy Sensation! at Radio Shack. I raced home, downloaded the shareware, and then what exactly happened is kinda fuzzy but as far as I can remember I showed my dad, he thought it was cool, so he ordered it for me. It was either that or I got it for Christmas. I can't really remember. I only have two of my v1.1 diskettes, though. *snif*

Sweet. I'll give it a look, since PRBoom is being uncooperative.

A better idea, as it turns out, because Gamefaqs doesn't have any walkthroughs for Final Doom. I could probably find one elsewhere...I might have to later. See, I'm playing on EDGE. Does EDGE even have any sort of demo support? I know it won't sync with "normal" demos.

Hey. That's a great idea. See? I am dumb. Or really tired. Maybe both.

Hey, I'll sign up. I like EDGE. At least, I like some of the TCs and PCs that are EDGE-exclusive. [edit]Whoops. Didn't realize it was only for mod/TC folks. I should read more carefully. My bad. I actually want to make a levelset using EDGE but they've got a few issues to work out and I have some permissions to get before I can really get started. Sadly, it's more likely I'll be using the DDF->VavoomC converter and working in Vavoom - which has even fewer fans than EDGE.[/edit]

I dunno man. I don't think either one (Doom or Doom64) really looks like anything. Furthermore, I don't really think they were photographed, like the shotgun. I'm pretty sure both were hand-drawn. As a note, the Doom64 pistol looks broken in the middle. O_o Maybe it's just me.

Heh heh. I see enough of that in real life, sadly. >_<

Yeah, yeah. I was at work.