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I just corrected Wikipedia's Cyberdemon page: "The widespread claim, occurring in many places on the Internet, that this "pro tip" was published by GamePro, however, is erroneous, as it was actually created by Linguica, founder of Doomworld. [8]"

If all will post their locations in this thread, I will update the following index as I see new posts. Ideally such an index would be a maintained part of Doomworld independent of the forums... Updated February 8, 2004. Earth - |- Australia - | |- Adelaide - | | |- SlayeR | | | |- Queensland - | |- Toowoomba - | |- Ct_Red_Pants |- Europe - | |- Belgium - | | |- Antwerp - | | |- coldfusio | | | |- Denmark - | | |- Aars / Haubro - | | | |- Torn | | | | | |- Copenhagen - | | | |- dsm | | | | | |- Fredericia - | | | |- c-cooper | | | | | |- Nautrup - | | | |- Shaviro (Maonth) | | | | | |- Roskilde - | | | |- Little Faith | | | |- Estonia - | | |- Tallinn - | | |- Mephisto | | | |- France - | | |- Melun - | | | |- Ducon | | | | | |- Paris - | | |- Julian | | | |- Finland - | | |- Hämeenlinna - | | | |- DooMer 4ever | | | | | |- Helsinki - | | | |- Kulosaari - | | | |- Deewiant | | | | | |- Jakobstad (Pietarsaari) - | | | |- -Jk- | | | | | |- Nastola - | | | |- Espi | | | | | |- Seinäjoki - | | | |- maxspeed | | | | | |- Tampere - | | |- Janizdreg | | | |- Holland - | | |- Utrecht - | | |- Bilthoven - | | |- Terra-jin | | | |- Lithuania - | | |- Kaunas - | | |- Donce | | | |- Netherlands - | | |- Dordrecht - | | | |- Pascal vd heiden (AKA "CodeImp") | | | | | |- Mariënheem - | | | |- Disorder | | | | | |- Sint Joost - | | | |- exile | | | | | |- Wageningen - | | |- Scientist | | | |- Poland - | | |- Poznan - | | |- ellmo | | | |- Sweden - | | |- Gävle - | | | |- Ghostpilot | | | | | |- Malung - | | | |- Fredrik | | | | | |- Stockholm - | | |- Erik Alm (Erik) | | |- Kristian Ronge | | | | | |- United Kingdom - | |- England - | | |- LiverPool - | | | |- Vampirajay | | | |- Spike | | | |- Maghull | | | | | |- Kent - | | | |- DooMAD | | | | | |- Greater Manchester - | | | |- Little Lever - | | | |- Fodders | | | |- Modders | | | | | |- Cleveland - | | | |- Hartlepool - | | | |- The Ultimate DooMer | | | | | |- Hampshire - | | | |- Fleet - | | | |- NiGHTMARE (AKA "nb_nmare") | | | | | |- Lincolnshire - | | | |- Stamford - | | | |- Szymanski | | | | | |- South Gloucestershire - | | | |- Kingswood - | | | |- Grazza | | | | | |- Sussex - | | |- Brighton - | | |- Russell_P | | |- The Flange Peddler | | | |- Scotland - | |- Edinburgh - | |- zarkyb | |- North America - | |- Canada - | | |- British Columbia - | | | |- DOOM Anomaly | | | |- Tony | | | | | |- Ontario - | | | |- Waterloo - | | | | |- Psyonisis | | | | | | | |- Chopkinsca (KoRn) | | | | | |- Québec - | | |- Darkstalker | | |- Moumoute | | | |- United States - | |- Arizona - | | |- Opulent | | |- Sierra Vista - | | |- Ultraviolet | | | |- California - | | |- Simi Valley - | | |- Giomancer | | | |- Colorado - | | |- Colbran - | | |- Rotting Corpse | | | |- Florida - | | |- Orlando - | | | |- Cadman (Cadaver, Slider, Deadmeat) | | | | | |- ShadowRunner | | | | | |- Piezo | | | |- Georgia - | | |- Duluth - | | |- 999cop | | | |- Indiana - | | |- Ubik | | | |- Louisiana - | | |- New Orleans - | | |- Ty Halderman | | | |- Montana - | | |- Bozeman - | | |- DoomDiz | | | |- New York - | | |- Assmaster | | |- BlackFish | | |- Mastermind | | |- MaximusNukeage | | |- Mr. Chris | | | |- Minnesota - | | |- St-Paul - | | | |-geekmarine (AKA "The Mad Fragger" AKA "weirdguy" | | | AKA "macweirdo42") | | | | | |- Quast | | | |- Missouri - | | |- Noel- | | |- pregnant with worms (AKA "jute gyte") | | | |- New Jersey - | | |- Destroyer | | |- Grimm | | | |- North Carolina - | | |- Waynesville - | | |- DooMBoy | | | |- Ohio - | | |- Middleport - | | | |- EarthQuake | | | | | |- Stealthy Ivan | | |- Kojak_Man (Kuroshi Jigokuno) | | |- Dayton | | | |- Oregon - | | |- Corvallis - | | |- SargeBaldy | | |- MDenham | | | |- Pennsylvania - | | |- Ralphis (AKA "Ralph Vickers" AKA "DukeNukem" | | | AKA "Clardvaark" AKA "Phobos" AKA "Rakohus") | | |- Infinite Ammunition (AKA "plz_die_kthx" AKA "Plz die, kthx") | | |- insertwackynamehere | | | |- South Dakota - | | |- Jello | | | |- Texas - | | |-McAllen - | | | |- geekmarine (AKA "The Mad Fragger" AKA "weirdguy" | | | AKA "macweirdo42") | | | | | |- Xaser | | | |- Washington - | | |- Bremerton - | | | |- Danarchy | | | | | |- Seattle - | | | |- doomedout | | | | | |- Converted Doomer | | | |- Wisconsin - | | |- Eau Claire - | | | |- RendermaN | | | | | |- Green Bay - | | |- Job (AKA "SaviourMike" AKA "SpammerMike") | | | |- Piece_O_Mind | |- South America - | |- Brazil - | | |- Rio Grande do Sul - | | | |- Porto Alegre - | | | |- FragMan | | | | | |- State of São Paulo - | | |- City of Piracicaba - | | |- Cacodreams | | | |- Peru - | |- NokturnuS The Earth category exists so people can be listed without giving a location. Heh. [EDIT]Not that I'll post the names of anyone who lists anywhere other than Earth...[/EDIT]

The thing about seeing with a flashlight is that it's very limited vision. That's the difference, not being able to see really far.

YUSS!

Doesn't work for me, following instructions to the letter. I get an "out of memory" error.

It's funny that people generalize a "soul" as a ghostly thing that flies around without a body after the death of a body, even within Christianity, because in Christianity -- or at least all scriptural reference -- you don't GO to heaven in some kind of ethereal body. You die, you go in the ground, and you're left there until you're brought back up, fully restored, after the restoration of the kingdom of Heaven on Earth itself. S'what it says, anyway. It REALLY pisses me off when certain Catholics *coughcoughhispanics* go on about how their goddamn relatives are ANGELS watching them from UP ON A CLOUD. GAAAHAHHHHH. There isn't any basis. It's NOT "your religion" to believe that! I wouldn't have a problem with it if people would admit that that is not a Christian belief, but when I see Christians of any flavor running around completely getting their own religion wrong, it gives me a bit of a tick.

But it's English and that's how it's supposed to go.

so basically the life fairy sprinkles magic pixy dust on it and it's like "omg im alive now i kin feal it" srsly thx 4 poastin You expounded brilliantly on your points.

If the only directive is survival, and the means are not programmed, then the mind and the machine would both have to simulate possible courses of action to determine what's best. I think the big difference is in level of awareness. A machine, properly programmed to understand a mechanical model of the world (physics and sociology, most likely -- you have to withstand the elements as much as you have to avoid being lynched by people) should be able to analyze a situation and act appropriately, possibly simulating outcomes internally. I know that's how I do it. The way I think humans do it may seem irrational to observers, but they are not privy to the full, unexpressable experience and internal simulation of the thing. Retrospect is always more accurate than the view from the ground, also. Unprotected sex, eating junk food, having a cigarette, driving while intoxicated -- all have roots in survival instinct, I'd say. Every "wrong" thing we do could probably be traced back to how we think we can best affect our own survival. Unprotected sex, for instance, might be explained as reproductive instinct (a sort of survival). Junk food is immediately available in response to a feeling of urgency caused by hunger pangs. Smoking a cigarette, at least the first one ever, for a lot of people, is a response to social pressure. We're social creatures, and probably for survival reasons. Not just reproductive drive, but protection from others by friends. So when you trace it back, though cigarettes can kill you, you smoke it anyway based on a more immediate percieved threat to survival. The thing about analyzing input and simulating courses of action is that you can't just sit and run simulations all day. You have to be, on the fly, simulating and taking input at the same time, whether to respond to new threats to your survival, or to add new variables to whatever simulation you're running. You might not find the right answer in the time you've got available, so you terminate simulation and commit to whatever course of action gave the best results (whether the originally intended success or not) in simulation. But people don't commit -- they never found the right answer, and now they're acting on a hunch. I guess we could introduce faith and hope here, but they seem like they're mostly distractions to full committal to action, at least in this model. There are some very mechanical ways to think about human action here. The trick is having the right programming language to feed it sequentially (and sequentially is probably just plain not the best way) through a processor. I like this, as far as a model for selecting a course of action goes: http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html - It's a set of unspecific directives that can be applied to any goal, really. They're not specific. They're... variable? All a matter of continuing to analyze input. What I've heard is that the human brain makes neural connections based on experience. So, let's say you exercise right view, intention, speech, action, etc. You won't get it right all the time, I'm sure, but you'll have neural connections in place for doing certain things better in the future. It's all quite logical, in fact. Somebody mentioned feelings. Somebody said it's a matter of reacting to chemical sensations. Well, I think it might be more primarily logical. Pain is feedback intended to tell you that you're at risk for injury or death (and hopefully not too late). Fear of rejection goes back to that security within society thing. "Does a robot hand truly feel," I saw. Do you truly feel? Or do you take tactile input, recieve a stimulus telling you it's there, and then act accordingly to established neural procedures? If this hand in your hand is offered in friendship, it's social security, and it's a good feeling. You may note other things about it, such as that the hand is rough, or cold, that aren't of any particular noteworthiness, but they're brought to attention because they're either unusual features (based on pre-established neurology) or because they're familiar but not common and might become relevant, concievably, in some subconscious simulation. (As an aside to that, I think the conscious/subconscious thing is just like how you can dedicate less processor time to processes that are deemed less important.) "Irrationality can be seen as error," I also saw. I think actions percieved as irrational are just decisions that were made in situations where conditions were not right to perform a satisfactory simulation or take in complete input, resulting in a "best guess" scenario. So yes, there's an error, but it's not that the mind is leaving the correct process for determining what the best concievable course of action is, it's just that the simulation didn't work out. As far as robots gaining sapience by having the same mechanisms as a human, I don't think you necessarily have to have the same bits and pieces to achieve the same ends along the same general model. If all things are in constant motion, and this constitutes both life and death, where the ending of one construct is the beginning of another, then life and death are both constant. Could intelligence be definitively a conscious push for survival of one's construct? Fighting the life and death cycle? Is fighting for life the same as fighting for stagnation and death, on some level? (Peripherally on topic, but barely.) Dan: Only if it were a SEXY robot body. Cyberskin. I think we have problems when people ask questions like "is exact mimicry of life the same as life itself" and then say "Life IS:" this or that. I prefer to leave the questions open and see that we just keep experimenting and attempting to create. Creation is the generally agreed upon divine act, no? pre-emptive tl;dr

Someone mentioned him being in high spirits as of last known interaction. This makes me wonder about possible chemical factors, depletion of serotonin or something. I suppose if you wore yourself out on happy, you could feel pretty down. I know I've had that a few hundred times or so. (Not drug related.) Maybe he had one of those days that everybody has had once or twice. A death in the immediate family, a rejection, loss of a job, all three at once? Maybe all this, and the previous, chemical and environmental factors combined, until you've got a hell of a corner case. The mind seeks to explain things that don't make sense. He NEVER seemed dramatic, over-reactive (probably the most cool-headed of any of the IRCers, you could hardly even get a "wtf" out of him most of the time), or anything like that. He let me eCry on his eShoulder a time or three. One regrets never really getting a chance to give back. Or maybe not recognizing the opportunity along the way. I didn't wanna get in on a gay-chain of "I knew him so well and now I'm so sad," because I have to wonder how well anyone here really did know him. I know people exaggerate, but this really does FUCKING SUCK, regardless. Well, enough of my spew.

I'm not entirely sure, but I believe there are ACS commands to freeze the game. There's a console command for freeze mode, but the player can still move, so it's pretty likely that there's an ACS command for it, too. I know there's a player property command for freezing the player. If one command won't do it, use both of those. Alternatively, you could teleport the player out to safety while he manages his inventory. That'd let you, say, put the player in a virtual reality setting like he's inside his virtual equipment warehouse or something like that. Or you could even just do camera changing like in RTC3057 to put a background on it. Lots of potential there, but with lots of work needed.

You could probably switch up the grid colors, have grids pop up as if there is supposed to be some illusion as far as having normal architecture, but bits are missing, stuff like that. I mean, if you want a varied VR experience type deal.

I don't know how helpful they'd be just over the phone. Kinda have my doubts. Still, would be good to know... I don't personally have his last name, phone number, address.

Posting to watch for updates. Has anybody TEXTED his phone? I've had network trouble where calls and call notices don't make it, but texts do, and vice versa.

Oh man, I've had the car control dream. What happens is my brakes will put me immediately into a skid, and I'll end up keeping momentum in the same direction no matter what, while the car rotates here and there, until it's traveling the same direction facing backward.

Rat-eating simulator?

I don't think you need to post LAYOUT BREAKINGLY HUGE screenshots.

The projectile-chain laser idea is great -- but not for a laser. It'd be better if the art concept were a particle beam, with each new projectile spawned moving at a semi-random rate forward (spawn it [rand] units forward, within a certain range) and a random offset perpendicular to the path of travel (also constrained to a certain amount of units). Could do the individual particles as small bubbles with a random color translation applied. Perhaps also with color range constraints. Anyway. It's unique, and I'd love to see it with the proper sprites. I also had this idea a bit back for a "linear tri-pulse" weapon: Fires a rail, and then simultaneously fires three different projectiles -- the first, a small, fast plasma-like projectile; the second, a bigger, slower one; and the third, the biggest, also the slowest. The slower the projectile, the more damage, but it's also harder to aim. Being a total of four shots (or maybe just three if the rail doesn't do damage -- it could be artistically just a "magnetic guidance stream" designed to give the shots their initial direction and velocity (hence speed falling as the stream fades), you have three/four pain chance calculations upon hitting -- if all shots hit -- and more damage against a target that is hit by all shots. If somebody does this, PLEASE notify me (because I'd love to see it), and maybe even credit me. :P As for sprites, I think Eriance has made stuff that would look good. But... perhaps he'd have sprite art ideas better suited to this concept than pre-existing work.

FUCK CONDOLEEZA RICE. Aside from that, I didn't catch this story when it happened, but if it's like you're saying, that sounds like OMG THOUGHTCRIME to me.

What source port are we looking at?

gj nub lol

You know, I heard the Columbine folks walked on two legs. This should be banned immediately. I want a HL2 mod that renames The Combine to The Columbine. zomg hilarity

That's kind of a "Lincoln freed the slaves" take on the matter. Words on paper don't get things done. Most often, people with guns (or tools of whatever sort) do. The Bill of Rights doesn't DO anything.

The American Revolution could have been considered massive disturbance of the peace. Ah, OK, so if one person interferes with what another person wants to be doing, like driving to work, then the police should jump in? Well where are the police to jump in on the part of the protestors, who are just doing what they want to be doing? Authority just assumes what will happen without really knowing. "This could potentially get out of hand" is enough for them. UNLESS 'DEYS NEGROES INVOLVED. But seriously, no, that's not the reason they won't abuse them, that's the reason they will only GRADUALLY abuse them. There will be occasional public reaction tests, and their spin doctors will be there for damage control. When they've got a crowd control weapon big enough and subtle enough (see mass media, chemicals in food to alter brain chemistry, subliminals, whatever) to take care of the whole country, THEN they'll do it outright, but nobody will care. To trust any organized force with the means to outright control your whole life is completely unacceptable. ("We will abolish the orgasm! Our neurologists are already hard at work on it.") Oh, OK. Things that are unconstitutional don't happen in the United States. The founding fathers themselves are still alive and well here watching over our freedoms, making sure everything goes A-OK. Statistics aren't on tasers' side, they're on statisticians' sides and politicians' sides. You know, those insane fuckers who want to control us all, and now they have the means, because of complacent idiots who think that the way things are SUPPOSED to work is the way things DO work?

I started to write this post out of order, jumping around. I decided to give up and just summarize. Anyway: Europeans and Whitebread Summer-Home-In-The-Hamptons Americans have no grounding in what American life and society are really like, and I have no interest in their unrealistic opinions as to how the United States should be run; guns are not to blame (JUST LIKE DRUGS, PEOPLE -- ALL YOU "LEGALIZE POT BUT BAN GUNS" FOLKS LISTEN UP) for social ills that spur violence, and THAT is why decreasing LEGAL arms sales does NOTHING (black markets can't even assure quality goods, and then you have people dying in sales-gone-wrong because somebody thinks he's getting screwed, or the cops show up, or whatever). Weapons won't go away, because they are used by the military and police, and manufacturers will always want to sell more, and no government force should have more weight than the entirety of the population it governs, because we all know, in the backs of our minds, that "of, for, and by the people" is BULLSHIT, because you can't trust anyone with control over your own life -- not the ability to run it, and not the ability to take it. Remember: "Greed is eternal." :P Some might say, in response to a lot of posting in this thread, that we should give the police MORE power to stop violent crimes. Interesting thing about violent crime -- in order to prevent every act of violence, or even a significant portion, we'd have to have a much larger police force. - First, who wants to be watched by the authorities all the time? It already pisses me off that I'm generally assumed to be a shoplifter everywhere I go. Gee golly, don't I feel so safe, like when the cops automatically blind me with their fucking flashlights, and walk around with their hands on their guns all the time? I sure am glad I have a good reason to trust them. - Second, a larger number of police would have to come from somewhere, like the general population. Then, we once again have a large population of randomly armed motherfuckers. Oh yeah, arms should definitely be held exclusively by the establishment, what with all the crooked politics going on ALL THE TIME. It's OK. We can trust them. - Third, you can't prevent violent crimes, you can only prosecute them. They happen way too fast. And violent crimes are often crimes of passion. They're not thinking about the consequences. They're not thinking about how the big bad po-lice will be on 'dey ass prosecuting them.