Dubh

Thanks for all the posts. I headed up to the woods of Maine the past few days and was hoping for a few replies to read when I get back. Overall your opinions are good and I'm pleased. Thanks for yours dsm, I was particularly looking forward to yours. Has anyone attempted mapping yet?

Some of you may know me......member for some time now...previously a lurker back from the days of MacWorld. I live in Ireland and am currently on vacation in Boston.As a result I haven't got to play Doom yet. Yesterday I had the damn thing in my hands in Sam GOodies. I have been a little blown sideways with some of the reactions to the game online. I must admit, with all the newbies joined it is hard to distinguish trolling from real posts. Basically without rambling on for too long...can some members here please tell me their honest opinion of Doom. Will I be happy with it etc... No spoilers if thats okay...I don't want massive paragraphs...Just your quick opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Apparantly if you look in the very back on page 112, in the NEXT MONTH box, you'll see the following: "We're dying here. On the one hand, we want to tell you all about the earth-shaking exclusive we've got lined up for next issue. On the other hand, it's such a massive secret, it makes the Manhattan Project look like a gardening club. So we must remain mum for now, but trust us: our August cover will unveil a story well worth the wait" Hmmmmm....curious...

Hope this hasn't been posted befor but on xbox e3 quicktime vid 1 minute 36 seconds in , pause vid and frame by frame through it using cursor keys on keyboard. You will see an enemy that doesn't look familiar at all to me.......anyone else see this.....Don't think it's the bird man.......is it the arch-vile?

It's here folks!!!! http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040511/sftu128_1.html Press release, summer release date........ Jesus I'm so happy.... If there is to be a demo....by god it's not far off.....

....unfortunately folks we haven't gotten what we were hoping for. Secretly I had a feeling nothing would happen but in the back of my mind I was hoping...you know...... I live in Dublin, Ireland and I can get broadband for about €20 - €30 per month. I have nearly decided to get it but before I do, are there any folks on here who are planning clans/map sharing/ possibly a league table where we can compete when the good day arrives (after we finish SP anyway)? Because I guess we are all part of a community here and most of us have been waiting together for the past 4+ years. It would be a shame to see things dwindle here you know... Anyway, I just wanted to post to say I am kinda disappointed that we have had no news today and I know how alot of you feel but we are all in the same boat together and hopefully we will hear something soon. Jesus this wait is getting to me......Keep the flag flying people!!

I bought PainKiller at the weekend....good game but what kinda pissed me off was in the manual, they list all enemies and give a little picture of them...so I knoew what to expect before the game had even finished installing. This kinda spoils things (for me anyway).....I hope id don't do likewise with Doom3. Do you think they will?

Well we did get a bit of news: See at BluesNews: John Carmack on the GeForce 6 "As DOOM 3 development winds to a close, my work has turned to development of the next generation rendering technology. The NV40 is my platform of choice due to its support of very long fragment programs, generalized floating point blending and filtering, and the extremely high performance," said John Carmack, president and technical director of id Software

Sorry but I seem to be a bit confused here... I thought Quake4 is supposed to be a re-telling of the Stroggos War (Quake 2) Am I wrong?

I have the same feeling. I'd say we'll be playing Doom by the end of next month. "Really Soon" That really sounds like they are tying things up. Already they are mentioning their next project (I am very happy the is going to be a next project) It's gotta be shipped in the next few weeks. April 15th I hope. This is good news.

I like the screenshot.. I think if Doom never existed and Doom3 was simply called Doom, we would be amazed at these creatures. I agree with you entirely on the ship bit. Also, we have all seen pictures of nice clean walls in some of the lab pics etc... I think the rev look like a great approximation of the look they were originally trying to create....and maybe his hands look too big 'cos the shot is one where he is reaching a little into the camera..you know..

I respectfully disagree to both...... I think the Rev fits fine into the Doom3 environment, after all, this is hellspawn on a human base. I would think it will fit right into the hellish levels we are to expect. Also, not seeing this creature in motion doesn't do it justice. As for the Quakes being large steps forward in Technology and not in design: Quake1 became fully 3-dimensional adding depth previously not explored in previous titles (doom) Obviously this affected design. They were bound to a certain colour pallette I agree but made fantastic use of it and in Final Appearance I do believe Quake1 looked fantastic. You had dynamic skies, Full modelled characters as opposed to sprites, light-mapping etc.. Quake2 looked spectacular when first booted up using a voodoo2 etc... Colour pallette increased, models more detailed in animation and skins, larger open spaces, Quake2 LOOKED alot different to Quake 1, And quake 3, Bezier Curves ->Design change -> appearance change. Higher poly models and worlds, richer textures......Hardware acceleration only.....definitely design and final appearance changes. But as I say, thats my opinion...and I do respect yours at the same time Cheers

This is a Doom3 forum. You have to know and respect the fact that there are people on here who have a genuine interest in Doom3 and have been watching it develop for years...yes YEARS. If you don't believe this game will be good well thats fine but you could have said someting like "I have a feeling people will be let down with this game" instead of "Mark my Words, Doom 3 will SUCK" Thats just being waaay too opinionated and it is basically not fair to other forum regulars with their own opinions. And as for "When you get a life... get back to me" Have some fucking respect man!!! Listen to Shaviros advice...

Holy shit people, whats this turned into 'Bitch about ID games' Firstly AndrewB: The reason pinky eats the dead zombie is because if you recall, in the scene right before it you catch him draggin the corpse into the bathroom through a door in a hallway. Whats he going to do in there? Take a dump? No he's going to eat the damn thing. You as the marine simply walk in on him and he then hides in the cubicle an pounces on you. What is illogical or unrealistic about that. And for pukey colours? For f**k sake, what came before Quake1 , yes the answer is Doom2. There was an order of magnitude increase in gameplay and graphics used between these 2 games. Can nobody remember the dark cold blue castle hallways in Quake?? Quake2 from Quake 1...another order of magnitude... hardware acceleration made this game totally cool. Yes the colours were vibrant but 'Dick Tracy" And then we have Quake3....massive step from Q2...nothing to be added there...games are still being made using this engine....and you can forget about RTCW 'cos in my opinion it wasn't a pure id game. Some of you are just getting bitchy 'cos the wait is killing you. If you saw that revenant screenshot 2 months after the macworld demo you would have been "Oh my christ....have you seen that new screen,,,,IT Fucking absolutely ROCKS"

Did anyone notice the UAC wall texture is reversed. At first I thought the whole image was flipped but then the ammo count would be reversed. Is this a mistake or is it on purpose? I know at this stage anything out of the ordinary is a possible hint at something (conspiracy etc..) The wait is killing me too..........since macworld....arrrghh Why release a massive 16MB 4000x3000 screenshot with a mistake in it? Mehhh I don't know... nice article though. Also, when did this recording take place? Was it a month ago? Did id tell them to hold off on releaseing the article until they say so? GameSpy seem to be one of the more trusted sites imo. I am looking for conspiracies everywhere..I really need a release date. Hopefully John will give us something on Thursday...

Clever words indeed...

I don't know folks.....something stinks here....stinks in maybe a good way..... What gets me is the following: Why is Doom3.com updated now?...why now? Shouldn't the have waited to updateit on the 10th of Dec or something? What are they going to do on the 10th? Nothing? "Full Experience Coming Soon" ???? If the game is out in say March , why say this on website now?? I mean 4 months is not soon. Website should be updated with that I'd say maybe a month to go or something. Now you can Pre-Order online?...On Doom3.com itself.... I'm sorry but it just doesn't sound like a game thats going to be released in 4 months....it sounds like a game thats going to be released much sooner than that. I know that the chances of it being released before Christmas ar virtually zero but why the articles in gaming magazines and online as of late....why a sudden up in hype? Hype should be avoided around the Christmas season if there isn't going to be a release (waste of time and money)........After all thats happened this year why start the hype machine again? There is something afoot I tells ya!!!!

....Grenade Launcher as its own weapon...... What do you expect...since when has id used secondary fires?

Ohh christ not the flashlight again........ Look: Why can't marine fire two pistols at once? NOT PART OF GAME Why can't marine lob a grenage whilst shooting? NPOG Why can't marine use night vision all the time? NPOG Why can't marine operate machinery while shooting? NPOG Why can't marine throw barrell back at zombie while shooting? NPOG Why can't marine shoot while using flashlight? NPOG Why can't marine have a wank while using flashlight? NPOG Just a game folks, better and scarier this way? Yes. I bet the logic behind the situation was..... "It's a shame we have a flashlight 'cos the really creepy areas kinda get ruined by it....enemy surprise factor kinda suffers" "Lets get rid of flashlight?" "No, we need it for this bit and that bit....and anyway...it looks cool cutting through shadows" "Okay then what do we do about it...how do we increase scariness while played is using flashlight?" "I know, how about this: The player can't use weapons when using flashlight" "Good idea but what happens if they are attacked, we can't leave them totally defenseless" "How's about we turn flashlight into melee weapon....they can give enemy a good whollop of the flashlight giving them a second or two to switch back to their weapon..." "Great idea....lets run with that"

My humble opinion: Alot of people I feel are losing hope. This is wrong. Doom3 is going to far exceed peoples expectations. Look, we have only seen a handful of screen and movies. The alpha was released but shouldn't be taken into account. I personally have not seen a game that will look as good as Doom will. When you step into a Carmack engine there is a different sense of solidity than in other games. ID don't release buggy games. Their worlds are tighter, more fluid and excellent examples of bleeding edge technology. I still believe they are well ahead of the race tech wise. And then we have gameplay. I don't even have to comment on ids gameplay..nuff said. I know the wait is exhausting, shit, you only have to look at the post count. We haven't had much material to feed on lately so I believe the end of the wait is near. If we get a surprise and it's released early, so be it but I can wait a little longer. Doom3 is not Daikatana and shouldn't even be in the same paragraph as the word. ID are on the job lads. Nothing to worry about. Peoples faith in ID wavered after Quake 3 but thats because they made a bold step towards Multiplayer. We haven't seen a fully-id game since that. We haven't seen a full id SP game in a long long time. This game will put a smile on all of your faces. If not you can flame me to hell and back. I have faith and patience. DNF will be good but doesn't compare ....... Anybody who has had the privilege to see D3 in action is left speechless. God knows what else they are throwing into the game .We have only seen the tip of the iceberg people. There was a media blackout (semi) on new material since the leak. The want to scare the hell out of us i.e: We haven't seen ANYTHING of the final game. Trust me.....wait and see. When Doomsday comes around, there will be some posts on this board. Probably only consisting of "OMG" As for the thread "Too little too late": Get a fucking grip. One delay and people start pissing and moaning. It isn't been released because ITS NOT READY. Activision should have never put that "2003" on the Doom3 banner. "When it's done" this isn't some cheeky statement to drive the media frenzy!!! It's the only release statement id could have released from the beginning. This is the biggest game they have ever taken on board. I'm sure that they would have wanted to release it this year but we can only be greatfull that they aren't a materialistic bunch of guys. They care about their product. They want it to be right. Believe me, this game will be revolutionary!!!

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I agree with dsm. I won't repeat what I said in my provious reply but I stand by it. This whole thread of discussion and disappointment began simply from an Activision Report (which is 100% accurate). All other news sources are derivatives of this Report. If Activision knew the release date for Doom3 we would know because that info would have been leaked somehow. Thats why game companies don't tell their publishers much. All paperwork involved, required infrastructure, manpower etc. would have been allocated a long time ago to prepare for the release of Doom3 given a certain period-of-notice. If the game was finished today, they could be banging it out in 2 weeks, no problem. We are dealing with a multinational publishing company here, not a garage mailing house.... wait and see I guess (again) :)

Okay, I have now read everything in every forum regarding this Activistion nonsense and I have drawn my own conclusions. They are as follows: Activision has never been given a release date for Doom so they cannot put it on their projections for this year until id give them the go-ahead. I believe they are covering their backs in case the worst happens and the game is put back a few more months. In the event that the game is released before Christmas, I guess all that Activision will do is update their projection/release lists. The matter that their share price has gone down isn't that relevant, BUT, why release a game after Christmas when everybody is smashed broke until March. Shitty sales compared to the Christmas boom. Activision are not developing this game and id can tell them to piss-off at any point so why should Activision ruin possibly one of their bigges clients by pissing them off and pressurising them for a release date? What do they do? They cover their backs by announcing that they don't think it will be out this year. They never said it wouldn't for definite!!!! The amount of speculation and the tendancy to blow things way out of proportion for this game is unique. We have never seen hype like this before. I stand firmly on the ground that the release date will be in or around December 9th. When it's done folks. As far as I'm concerned, nothing much has changed, only maybe the fact that we are even more anxious than we were before. I am buying my new rig next week and HL2 will keep me happy until D3 comes out. And whoever speculated that id weren't releasing D3 until after xmas because of HL2 need their heads examined.

I'm going to take this news with a fistfull of salt. I still believe id should at least make some comment....

Ahh shit, thats bad news. I am just about to buy my rig dammit!!! This week!!!! I must say though, at this stage, I am kinda getting a little pissed off with the whole "when its done" thing. What happened to "Coming 2003" banners? And not wanting to have another e3 showing? And Activision saying a few months that it would be out in THIS fiscal year. Christ, they have more or less half a year left. Ahh well, what can you do I guess? I will go ahead and buy my rig. It should still be fairly newish next year P4 2.6 1GIG RAM 120 MB HDD Radeon 9800 128 Pro Creative Labs Soundblaster Live 5.1 Altec Lansing Dolby Speakers with Woofer etc.. etc.. Does anyone think this could be just Activision covering their backs and that there is a chance it will be out this year?