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I've been thinking. We have so many cartoons that are supposed to teach basic morals, stuff like "believe in yourself", etc. But personally, I feel like as a kid I never took any lessons from the cartoons that I watched. They were just cool, funny, or entertaining to watch, but I never really noticed any "themes" or moral lessons I think. I only started to see that stuff somewhat later in life.

Could it be that these cartoons are failing at what they are trying to be? Maybe instead of that moralistic stuff they should be more about sparking your imagination, entertainment, and simply telling a good story that isn't supposed to teach anything? Or was I just an outsider and that's why I felt like this?

Or, maybe these moral lessons had a more indirect kind of effect on me... Not like "OK, I will love my parents now" but they still left something in my heart? Who knows.
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Oh yeah. Since I didn't have CN, I stuck with what I had. And these shows were usually for educational stuff, eg Wordgirl, WordWorld, Sid the Science Kid (?), etc.

But sheesh the cartoons these days trying to teach morals fail miserably eg Teen Titans Go!
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Fortunately, most cartoons are snarky about morality stuff. At most, it's about villains always failing, which is generally the norm (it's bad when they win).
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I watched english speaking cartoons, but never understood english, so I just sat there and judged the actions instead.
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They certainly aren't (supposed to be) brain washing you. There might be a little bit of a subconscious effect. I watched a lot of sesame street as a kid and I believe that helped me significantly in learning to read at an early age.

I think historically, cartoons have gotten a lot of flak from moms about the potential influence they have on their target audience, which I think pressured tv broadcasting companies to air shows that had a more positive moral lesson to take away from it.
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Cartoons don't directly educate you. I mean, it'd be quite bad if they did. If your parents taught you how to be a good man, then cartoons will influence you, you'll see how it works, even in such exaggerated, made-up conditions.
Also, remembering the cartoons that I used to watch as a kid, but that are forgotten now, makes me feel old. Noddy (the puppet boy who drives a taxi), Thomas & Friends (the trains), anyone?
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I would argue that stories have themes regardless of whether or not they're obvious or intentionally placed, and whether or not you're consciously picking up on them.
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Batman: The Animated Series taught me that you can't read in dreams.

I mean, it was wrong, based on (then-current, now-outdated) science and theories regarding the left and right hemispheres, but still -- that was a cool thing to try and teach to kids via a superhero cartoon.
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Memfis said:
Or, maybe these moral lessons had a more indirect kind of effect on me... Not like "OK, I will love my parents now" but they still left something in my heart? Who knows.
I'd definitely argue for this. A lot of how media influences us is pretty damn subtle - the cases where you're given new insight to a particular thing and suddenly have a "eureka!" moment about the subject are really only a small percentage of that sort of thing. Brainwashing is the last thing I'd call it, because if the purpose was genuine brainwashing then it's pretty damn terrible and never accomplish its goals, but the way what you consume changes you isn't something you're going to realize unless you go out of your way to think about how you act and think and how that relates to what you've watched.

I mean, I can certainly say that the way I think about passion, moments of inspiration, and loyalty towards friends is really telling about how much shonen manga and anime and the like I've watched over the years.
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dethtoll said:
Batman: The Animated Series taught me that you can't read in dreams.
I remember that episode. I also remember coherently reading things in dreams myself, so that was obviouslyy h majte wujkehhg qudd sadjek zsklesafghh fmbmlvo.
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i learned english mostly by watching cartoons XD
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Ed, Edd and Eddy taught me that canadians are weird.
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dethtoll said:
Batman: The Animated Series taught me that you can't read in dreams.

I mean, it was wrong, based on (then-current, now-outdated) science and theories regarding the left and right hemispheres, but still -- that was a cool thing to try and teach to kids via a superhero cartoon.
I'm curious about that, because I was always told you can't read in dreams. And I think it's correct. When I'm dreaming I can look at something with text and know what it's supposed to say, but when I go to read it, it turns out completely different.

Simple example: I see a big red EXIT sign hanging from the ceiling in a dream, I know it's an exit just from how it looks. But if I try to read it in a dream it turns into something else. It may turn into a voltage, reactive inductance, current, and tao. And rearrange itself into a circuit, but it no longer reads "EXIT". That was a simple example, in dreams I can pick up a piece of paper and know what it's supposed to say, but if I try to read it all the words turn into something else, usually mathematic equations.

And I would imagine different brains are different, some people probably can read in dreams, but when I dream I can't read worth a shit.
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