Zaldron Posted March 24, 2002 Originally posted by dsm Such a story would be lame imo, two similar "Hell" incidents so close to each other? Nice try though. Same technology is bound to fail alike. Besides one could interpretate the failure not as a fuck-up from the humans, but how "Hell" takes control of the situation once the tissue of reality is softened by the slipgate complex (term stolen from Quake but what the hell, the promise was the same as Doom's, only the menace was different). 0 Share this post Link to post
Ultimate Demon Posted March 24, 2002 Why didn't the marines nuke the demons to hell? 0 Share this post Link to post
dsm Posted March 24, 2002 Because the UAC didn't want to ruin expensive equipment... 0 Share this post Link to post
Zaldron Posted March 24, 2002 Son of a bitches. I'd like to kill a UAC representative in Doom. Like, after the whole deal is done. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ultimate Demon Posted March 24, 2002 Originally posted by dsm Because the UAC didn't want to ruin expensive equipment... I would rather destroy everything rather than leting some cheap equipment and demons over run the base and earth 0 Share this post Link to post
dsm Posted March 24, 2002 Well firstly, they don't know what's happening on Phobos (even if they did, they probably overestimate the marines) - they send in marines to investigate. Secondly, since Phobos is so far away from Earth, they have no idea that the demons are able to get to Earth (it's still a mystery to me how the demons got to Earth in the first place - it's not really explained in any of the games). Once the demons are loose on Earth, they don't want to nuke their own home and risk killing thousands of potential survivors. [edit]The reason I think a prequel would be lame is that the story would be nothing not heard about before no matter how I look at it, it'd also kill the "the-UAC-were-the-bastards-who-first-created-a-gateway-to-Hell" aspect, which I happen to like so much. Besides, there's PLENTY material to do a sequel - I have thought up next to a dozen possible continuations of Doom 2's storyline[/edit] 0 Share this post Link to post
Ultimate Demon Posted March 24, 2002 Originally posted by dsm Well firstly, they don't know what's happening on Phobos (even if they did, they probably overestimate the marines) - they send in marines to investigate. Secondly, since Phobos is so far away from Earth, they have no idea that the demons are able to get to Earth (it's still a mystery to me how the demons got to Earth in the first place - it's not really explained in any of the games). Once the demons are loose on Earth, they don't want to nuke their own home and risk killing thousands of potential survivors. [edit]The reason I think a prequel would be lame is that the story would be nothing not heard about before no matter how I look at it, it'd also kill the "the-UAC-were-the-bastards-who-first-created-a-gateway-to-Hell" aspect, which I happen to like so much. Besides, there's PLENTY material to do a sequel - I have thought up next to a dozen possible continuations of Doom 2's storyline[/edit] Well in Final Doom the demons where flying a giant ship so maybe they came whit the same ship? 0 Share this post Link to post
Ultimate Demon Posted March 24, 2002 Originally posted by dsm Final Doom pfft! What pfft??? 0 Share this post Link to post
dsm Posted March 25, 2002 The backstories for final Doom is probably the worst excuses for game backstories I've seen - a huge spaceship made out of steel and flesh??? Oh come on! 0 Share this post Link to post
Lüt Posted March 25, 2002 Originally posted by Fredrik Any additional music should IMO be used only in relation to special events. That reminds me, I should finish my article about how to set up and implement a good scripted soundtrack based on in-game happenings and events. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ultimate Demon Posted March 25, 2002 Originally posted by dsm The backstories for final Doom is probably the worst excuses for game backstories I've seen - a huge spaceship made out of steel and flesh??? Oh come on! And a portal to Hell in Doom!! oh please..... 0 Share this post Link to post
Lüt Posted March 25, 2002 Originally posted by dsm a huge spaceship made out of steel and flesh??? Oh come on! Why? That part rules. I dunno what you picture, but I picture something very cool. 0 Share this post Link to post
dsm Posted March 25, 2002 Ok, the fleshy spaceship indicates that the demons are a little too much like humans. That goes against my basic idea on what demons are like - THAT's what I don't like. They're demons dammit, not spacealiens! Just about as ridiculous as if the demons spoke English. The gateway to Hell is a lot more interesting and mysterious imo - humans try to build a teleporter which fucks up with reality so that a rift to Hell opens. The demons of Hell apparently corrupts the rift and ultimately turns it into an actual gateway to Hell. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ultimate Demon Posted March 25, 2002 Isn't the Cyberdemon some cind of Alien? 0 Share this post Link to post
dsm Posted March 25, 2002 It's called cyberdemon for a reason y'know. It's mechanically enhanced demonlord and not a friggin' spacealien. 0 Share this post Link to post
Lord FlatHead Posted March 25, 2002 That reminds me, I should finish my article about how to set up and implement a good scripted soundtrack based on in-game happenings and events. Weren't you going to do an article about Doom 3's music for me once ? 0 Share this post Link to post
Lüt Posted March 25, 2002 Originally posted by FlatHead Weren't you going to do an article about Doom 3's music for me once ? Heh, yeah, that's what I was talking about :P 0 Share this post Link to post
pritch Posted March 26, 2002 Originally posted by dsm It's called cyberdemon for a reason y'know. It's mechanically enhanced demonlord and not a friggin' spacealien. I always assumed some kind of overling alien took the demonic creatures from various places and gave them enhancements. So teh Mancubus has flamethowers added; the Cyberdemon has a rocketlauncher and iron hoof stuck on. Maybe the Barons of Hell were just big angry things like our own lions and tigers before so they gave them enhancements. I'd like to see Doom 3 take that enhancement thing further. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ultimate Demon Posted March 26, 2002 Originally posted by pritch I always assumed some kind of overling alien took the demonic creatures from various places and gave them enhancements. So teh Mancubus has flamethowers added; the Cyberdemon has a rocketlauncher and iron hoof stuck on. Maybe the Barons of Hell were just big angry things like our own lions and tigers before so they gave them enhancements. I'd like to see Doom 3 take that enhancement thing further. But the Mancubus ( my fave ) hasn't got any flamethrowers but some kind of rocketlauncher. Well Zaldron Hell has just forgotten one thing and it is that hell never gave the demons a brain! 0 Share this post Link to post