I'm trying a new riff called "you idiots". Let me know what you think.
=== vectors.cpp is simple, trivial math
vectors.cpp is copy/pasted from Q2. This proves one of two things:
- the whole time you guys have been saying "there was never GPL code in ZDaemon" you were full of shit
- the whole time you guys have been saying "we've been over every line of code in ZDaemon and there was never any GPL code in our codebase" you were full of shit
Who knows which one it really is, but it doesn't matter. The result is the same (you're full of shit).
It's also worth saying that even if it were really simple & trivial (and there's nothing that hard about vector math), you guys didn't even bother to change the API or anything. U.S. courts actually agree that APIs can be copyrighted (see Oracle v. Google), so I guess what I'm saying is fuck you guys, you're retarded. No judge or jury would find that vectors.cpp doesn't require licensing, you idiots.
=== butthurt this, butthurt that
It's particularly rich that you keep this up, considering you're the one holding onto links from 8 years ago and handing out masterbans for people you just don't like, i.e. anyone who lets on that KilgoreQuotes exists. "ROFLBAAHAHA KILGORE IS SO BUTTHURT".
Classic example of ZD hypocrisy, you idiots.
GetWAD didn't blacklist doom2.wad because ZD devs and admins wanted people to be able to play ZDaemon without having to buy Doom.
I had to berate ZD devs in every possible forum before they would finally admit the only reason their source is closed is that they want complete control over their community. Hopefully we can skip that on this issue and just admit that you guys wanted people to play ZDaemon without having to buy Doom.
The whole "why don't you get IE to block downloads of copyrighted material" is such a terrible analogy, either you guys are full on stupid or maliciously disingenuous. IE is a general purpose web browser, it has no business blocking downloads of anything. How would it even do this, SHA256 hash? Wow that file would get pretty big....
GetWAD is a specialized WAD downloading tool. It doesn't download pictures of naked goats (I know what they do in Greece, you goddamn sicko), it doesn't download bombmaking materials, it downloads WADs. Why don't you blacklist the 6 WADs that are copyrighted by ID, you idiots?
=== Hypocrisy (everyone pirates)
Nope. I bought Ultimate Doom, Doom II, Final Doom, Heretic, and some terrible bunch of WADs I can't remember the name of. Actually I bought Doom II and Doom 95. Some of us legitimately love Doom, you idiots.
=== ID didn't react, therefore we're cool
No, it means you're so pathetic they didn't waste their time, you idiots.
=== ZDaemon can't be GPL if it contains Heretic/Raven code
That's actually the point we're making. 1.06 is illegal. Think about it for like 5 seconds, you idiots.
=== Closed source prevents cheating and various attacks.
Good news everyone! Call up Valve and ID tell them you solved the cheating problem, I'm sure they'll be thrilled.
Call up Microsoft and tell them they can stop investing in security. All they have to do is close the source to their programs and they don't have to worry about DDoS attacks or security vulnerabilities.
This is obviously not true, you idiots.
=== Forking is bad
Forking is bad for you, then again you suck and suck bad, and we therefore don't give a shit about you, you idiots.
=== Blah blah "our place", "our code"
No one's dictating anything. We're calling you names, and refusing to let you rain down a torrent of obvious lies and bullshit without strong and furious objection, you idiots.
You guys should really consider who you're pissed off at here. AlexMax has created some of the most classic Doom CTF maps ever. He's been a tireless advocate for the Doom community in every port, even single-player ports. He was instrumental in opening Skulltag's source code, he's been a great Odamex dev, and he's all around an outstanding community leader. You really fucked up when you threw him out of ZDaemon, you idiots.
Ralphis started the most popular event in multiplayer Doom, despite being entirely underground and banned from the then-most-popular port at the time. He also founded an entirely separate c/s source port that ultimately stole the majority of your playerbase from you. You really fucked up when you threw him out of ZDaemon, you idiots.
I ran the most popular ZDaemon servers for years. I spent thousands of dollars and thousands of hours supporting ZDaemon. I wrote stats generation software, server management software, and supported the competitive community - ZDDL and IDL. I'm also a reasonably accomplished developer in my own right, having at least the chops to look through your codebase and find GPL code (something that you guys obviously failed at). You really fucked up when you threw me out of ZDaemon, you idiots.
HumanBones ran ZD tournaments and ZD events for years. He moderated the ZD forums for years. He's well-respected in all circles and has proven his dedication and ability over and over again. You really fucked up when you threw him out of ZDaemon, you idiots.
Upon reflection, the "you idiots" riff makes me come off as more pissed than I am. I'm not pissed at all, I'm actually just amazed you guys think anyone buys this bullshit.
- It's obvious you guys still have vectors.cpp in current versions of ZDaemon, considering you didn't even know about it and even after you were made aware you argue that it's not covered by the GPL. By itself that means you're obligated to open the source.
- It's obvious you guys had GetWAD download IWADs to make it easier to pirate them.
- It's obvious you guys closed ZDaemon's source to prevent forks and therefore to exercise complete control over the ZDaemon community.
I wish we could start with the facts here, and move on like reasonable people. Instead we just get bluster ("trust me, we did our research"), incorrect information ("vectors.cpp is effectively public domain"), egregious nonsense ("AlexMax & Ladna == Joseph Goebbels"), and lies ("ZDaemon was never GPL").
People don't disrespect you because they're assholes, they disrespect you because you're assholes. Not that I think me saying it will make a difference, but I think someone should tell you all the same.