The dreaded "S" word!

GoatLord said:

I offered to have this thread helled but it seems to be providing too much entertainment. I'm personally embarrassed that I started it, being that sexuality makes me squeamish and I have a deep-seeded hatred for it (while simultaneously being drawn to it).

I sincerely hope you're not chewing yourself too much about it, GoatLord. These things happen. I've made much more embarrassing posts in my time on the internet.

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GoatLord said:

I offered to have this thread helled but it seems to be providing too much entertainment. I'm personally embarrassed that I started it, being that sexuality makes me squeamish and I have a deep-seeded hatred for it (while simultaneously being drawn to it).

I don't understand why you'd start a thread about something you loathe so much.

That being said... what schwerpunk said. We've all been there.

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Anyone else disappointed gggmork hasn't posted a long rambling literary masterpiece on this yet?

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Obsidian said:

Anyone else disappointed gggmork hasn't posted a long rambling literary masterpiece on this yet?


Yah, just videos is kinda disappointing.

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I'm rapidly approaching wizardhood. It doesn't bother me as I know I have the potential to be attractive and charming and it's due to my own choices and priorities that I'm not much of either at present.

Virginity and pornography interact in strange ways, though. I think that it used to be that sex was appreciated more as a form of sustenance. You plow the same fields, eat the same bread and fuck the same wife every day of your life and that's good enough for anyone. Now it's possible for a person's sexual tastes to evolve in the same way as their appreciation of an art form. The driving factor behind a person's advancing appreciation of music, literature, or etc. is boredom with the old. However, boredom only arises after a person is too experienced with a certain set of conventions and that same experience grants you the mental groundwork to appreciate something slightly more sophisticated, advanced or "baroque" which previously would have just seemed like pretentious noise or purple prose. Porn makes it possible for a person's sexuality to follow this same progression. Unlike living sexual partners which have the capacity to grow and change, porn is static, predictable and boring. The brain will adapt to its current kinks but will then become capable of sustaining interest in something more unusual, in one direction or another, and this can continue indefinitely until the stimuli it finds erotic no longer resembles human reality.

I'm idly curious about whether I'll still find the stock human female attractive in years hence, or if I'll be disappointed by their lack of equine reproductive architecture.

(gggmork wasn't doing his job, so here you go)

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Well said. There's definitely the risk that porn will spoil you for real women. But there's also something very visceral about the presence of a real, breathing female in your bed, that porn can't hold a candle to.

Although if you're worried about becoming inured to vanilla sex, then you might want to take control of your erotic media diet, or at least try to compartmentalize fantasy from reality. Don't let me catch you in a fur suit! Speaking personally, there are things I look at that I would never want to perform (faux rape, faux incest, things involving dildos attached to power tools, etc.). In my mind, there is a clear distinction between the videos I look at for fun and relaxation, and what I do with my SO when our schedules allow for it.

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schwerpunk said:

vanilla sex


This needs a sauce pot. All hail chocolate sex!

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not above limit removing 'vanilla' sex, but I prefer to keep things like slopes and polyobjects out of it.

Hehe, okay, I think that's about as far as that joke'll take us. :p

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I bet the government is keeping a big population of Doomworld virgins so that eventually our WADs and source ports become so advanced that they become self aware and create portals between the Doom dimension and the real one so that the government can enslave the demons to take over the world! By ensuring that we remain virgins, they make sure that we keep on adding new stuff to WADs and Source Ports without being distracted by girls or anything else.

The non-virgin master-race posters (like darknation, I'm watching you!) are just CIA agents who oversee our unwitting development of the super AI. I mean, why does he think we're all losers? Sounds very suspicious to me. Well let me tell you something Mr. Darknation! Your project was obviously behind schedule and suffered many setbacks due to the constant delays of Mordeth which was deleted by me(I hold the sole copy for safekeeping), and during that time, we've become better and better at demonslaying!

You may stop some of us but you will never stop us all. After we defeat the demonic hordes, thousands of big titted babes will be gloriously chomping on our cocks until they become inflamed, THEN we'll see who's the boss. You and your lackeys (I KNOW you're the leader) have been warned.

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As a sociopathic muppet wolf who serves the nothing, I'm pleased to see memes for rambling paranoid gibberish taking root here. I can now consider this forum successfully infected and move on to the next.

I wrote something in the other thread linked on the first page I think. It was quite horribly written on re-read.. I think I was eating too many GMOs and drinking too much flouride at that time preventing my brain from producing more quality gibberish. My brain was set to 2+2=6 when its supposed to be set to 2+2=5.

Anyway, children are locked in socialized prison training institutions called schools where they're taught the stork theory of reproduction and that Abraham Lincoln once traveled 70 miles to return a penny, even though he was, in reality, a vicious lawyer who allegedly ate fetuses from wombs. Meanwhile all adults participate in a conspiracy to completely mask their genitals with clothing, the only animals to do so, and tell the adolescent prisoners that if they ever manage to break free from their rote memorization torture and follow their natural biological urges, they'll be sent to gitmo for statutory rape and be forced to walk door to door in their neighborhood telling everyone they're registered as a sex offender, and be forced to join a second prison institution for perverts where a medical tyranny force feeds them erection reducing pills, and they're erections are measured while being forced to watch porn to make sure the drugs and brainwashing are working to make them sterile drones. Meanwhile (which is the 2nd meanwhile I used so even more stuff is happening meanwhile, I guess) the authority queen bee videotapes this entire emasculating humiliation and gets off to it as her own porn, then lays eggs in all the orderly kindergarten seats for the next generation.

I just figured posting videos was my best trolling strategy at the moment, because there's safety in numbers and others had already set the precedent that doing so was ok in this thread. I was trying to lay low, posting videos only, since my accusation of doomworld being full of white collar criminals was post helled. Alex Jones really pioneered a new form of trolling; demonize all authority figures to give yourself complete troll immunization because banning or censoring you will be considered authoritarian and evil. Genius gadfly or controlled opposition? Also I should have my last sentence have "sex" in it to make it appear on topic still.

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gggmork said:

My brain was set to 2+2=6 when its supposed to be set to 2+2=5.


11/10

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Creaphis said:

I'm rapidly approaching wizardhood. It doesn't bother me as I know I have the potential to be attractive and charming and it's due to my own choices and priorities that I'm not much of either at present.


I believe that most men have it within their ability to get with almost any of the girls they would want. All it takes is confidence, and meeting certain attainable pre-requisites that a particular woman desires. You can even turn them on to things they haven't considered before too. I think you have the right attitude.

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Kontra Kommando said:

I believe that most men have it within their ability to get with almost any of the girls they would want. All it takes is confidence, and meeting certain attainable pre-requisites that a particular woman desires.

I do agree, but you're missing one important thing from that very vital and truthful list: the women should learn how to negotiate solutions with the men who unsatisfied them, and should learn how to give warnings along the way instead of silently waiting until the last possible second to give a quick unexpected boot without talking things over.
With this ingredient added to the wonderful list of all the other things that you mentioned, the world would be a happier place.

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Threads like this truly exemplify DW's sense of humor and good-natured tinfoilery.

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schwerpunk said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not above limit removing 'vanilla' sex, but I prefer to keep things like slopes and polyobjects out of it.

Hehe, okay, I think that's about as far as that joke'll take us. :p


Best post on Doomworld

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schwerpunk said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not above limit removing 'vanilla' sex, but I prefer to keep things like slopes and polyobjects out of it.

Hehe, okay, I think that's about as far as that joke'll take us. :p

Now you're ****ing with portals.

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schwerpunk said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not above limit removing 'vanilla' sex, but I prefer to keep things like slopes and polyobjects out of it.

Hehe, okay, I think that's about as far as that joke'll take us. :p

Hate to see what would happen if there was a BSP glitch while having fun with your SO.

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Outside of procreation, human sexual affairs exist only as an outlet for our frustrations at not constantly procreating. It is a means to an end and is not essential to survival.

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Quasar said:

Now you're ****ing with portals.


Don't forget "thing placement" ;)

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GoatLord said:

Outside of procreation, human sexual affairs exist only as an outlet for our frustrations at not constantly procreating. It is a means to an end and is not essential to survival.


A switch that can turn these emotions off would be handy.

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GoatLord said:

Outside of procreation, human sexual affairs exist only as an outlet for our frustrations at not constantly procreating. It is a means to an end and is not essential to survival.

I could write up a really long and wordy retort about how 95%+ of things aren't really essential to human survival, either. But I'll let someone else have that honour.

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I'm hoping that will be a possibility in the future. With enough probing, science will likely discover how to turn off the libido. Along with other "switches" that can deliver dopamine rushes while carefully balancing it so people don't starve to death from constant pleasure injections, sexuality as a pastime will be obsolete.

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GoatLord said:

I'm hoping that will be a possibility in the future. With enough probing, science will likely discover how to turn off the libido. Along with other "switches" that can deliver dopamine rushes while carefully balancing it so people don't starve to death from constant pleasure injections, sexuality as a pastime will be obsolete.

They already did, partially. It's called Depo-Provera. It's a female contraceptive which, if taken by males, completely suppresses sex drive. Its use has been tested as a means of rehabilitation of sexual offenders but, the chief problem with it being used that way is, of course, non-compliance.

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GoatLord said:

Outside of procreation, human sexual affairs exist only as an outlet for our frustrations at not constantly procreating. It is a means to an end and is not essential to survival.


I don't think many people are gunna sign up for that though.

People congregating in a virtual world to discuss a 20 year old computer game is non-essential to survival too. But we still want to do it.

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I'll argue that it seems sex has been evolving/has evolved into something more complex than just procreation. I believe there is a natural reason for the way people behave. Lust inspires people to do certain things (sometimes good and sometimes bad, but so does hunger). For example, you want to have an active sex-life, therefore you strive to make it so via personal success. As social animals, human beings need incentives like sex in order to be motivated to do our part.

Moreover, other than just the gratification from climax, many people (myself included) enjoy the thrill of the hunt. I find that it's equally gratifying to have a good night out bar hopping with a girl you're attracted too. To then find that perfect opportunity to make a move and kiss her, and have it succeed. And then to coast through the rest of the night feeling positive, until you finally seal the deal at their house.

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GoatLord said:

I'm hoping that will be a possibility in the future. With enough probing, science will likely discover how to turn off the libido. Along with other "switches" that can deliver dopamine rushes while carefully balancing it so people don't starve to death from constant pleasure injections, sexuality as a pastime will be obsolete.

[Including non-reproductive sex] most of the things we enjoy are side-effects of the will to survive, though. Things like empathy, friendship, family, group dinners, dessert, story-telling... The list goes on.

Also, humans are some of the most sexually active species on the planet. Even when compared to bonobos, I believe we have more 'non-fruitful' sex - just to have fun. It's an integral part of our social dynamic, and I don't see any reason to do away with it. Certainly not any more reason than, say, doing away with family dinners.

Kontra Kommando said:

I'll argue that it seems sex has been evolving/has evolved into something more complex than just procreation. I believe there is a natural reason for the way people behave. Lust inspires people to do certain things (sometimes good and sometimes bad, but so does hunger).

Yup. Love, lust, and beauty: Dennis Dutton called these 'nature's way of acting at a distance.' You can't very well make your child smell like fresh chilli, or you lover taste like tiramisu (without some artificial help), but your brain can make you happy by just looking at them.

Eris Falling said:

Don't forget "thing placement" ;)

*Stands up and applauds.*

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I can't be the only one here that practices abstinence. Mind you, full celibacy is much more difficult, and inevitably I make the stupid decision to go porn surfing, although I have recently been forcing myself to spend less time doing it, while viewing less explicit material and with less overall frequency. It is a form of suppression, yes, but I find it liberating at the sane time.

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