Raymoohawk's sprite edits

I also prefer the blue. I also like your original death frames to the new ones.

slowly working on this guy

raymoohawk said:

i honestly like it more on blue

+1 from me. It just looks cooler. :D

Yup, and it gives it a distinctive look.

another frame

1+ to blue.
Yeah, stick to the blue, it really fits the cacodemon.

had a wacky of topic idea how about getting in contact with jimmy to see if hed let us use stuff from adventures of square to replace the wolfenstein stuff?

Nah I don't think that'd be a good idea. The art style clash between Wolf 3D and Doom is a lot lesser than between Freedoom and Square.

If you want to use another ZDoom fanmade game as the easter egg enemy, using a resized and cleaned up chaingunner from Harmony would make as much sense and probably fit better.

yeah :-) sorry, that is a better idea and ive been meaning to redo the harmony enemies in doom style anyway

Here is a WAD with the new Caco sprites in. It looks really great, but I think the death animation needs more work. Part of it is certainly that the sprite offsets are screwed up (I've tried to tweak them but it still looks weird). But I think the corpse sprite in particular needs to be changed.



The sprite has a large vertical difference between the bottom of the sprite and the bottom of the corpse (about 35 pixels). This gives some weird perspective effects where the eye part looks like it's sticking into the floor as you move around. Changing the vertical offset to be higher doesn't help, because if you do that, the main body part looks like it's levitating.

thanks, ill fix it sometime during the week

Thanks. It just needs tweaking to be more "flat". You probably just need to move the eye up slightly.

The effect can be seen in the screenshot but it's much more obvious in-game.

Corpses are the most important sprite frame. Whatever you plan on doing, I hope it is also has less height. Piles and piles of corpses block player view.

yes i just tried it out, the eye ends up buried. ill probably correct it thursday. school is to blame! :-D

i made a tread at opengameart to see if we could put the sprites over there. some issues turned up

here is the thread

http://opengameart.org/forumtopic/bringing-freedoom-art-assests-to-opengameartorg#comment-32472

since one of the goals is to have a pool of assets that game makers can use i thought it made sense to put the stuff over there since its one of the big places for open art, but they seem unhappy about the license. what do you guys think?

is this one better?

raymoohawk said:

is this one better?

I guess the initial implementation that you showed here was already fine:
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1318479#post1318479

Not sure why you changed that at all?

its just the corpse was way toot tall

possible walk frames

fabian said:

Not sure why you changed that at all?

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1320662

Regarding what someone mentioned earlier regarding coloured blood mini-mods, would it make sense to swap the red and blue shades on the not-a-Cacodemon?

Here's a shit proof-of-concept to show what I mean:

Whatever color you make the horns, I'd say they need a bit more contrast in general.

I like the blue horns, they go well with the creature's yellow eye. But the red version w/ blue blood has much better technical use. Maybe you could combine it somehow. Like, make it blue at the base, and then transition to red towards the tips.

I dunno, I guess experimentation is in order.

I really like your work man! Looking like some distinctive alien-bug-amphibians. I really like the poses on the zombiemen also, they don't look like the marching Doom variety, these guys look like they're dragging and have been marauding the maps for ages. Really nice work again. And I think the more contrast between the monsters, the better.

thanks, but the poses for the zombies come from saintfokillers, i only edited them

more frames of this guy

Brutally awesome!

thanks
another of this

and fixed the arms abit

Damn, that fellow with the bird skull looks wholly menacing. Amazing!

htanks!
a very rough walking test