Possible Unpopular Opinion

Not sure how many people will agree with me here, but I find the maps in DOOM 1 to be much more creative and enjoyable than the maps in DOOM 2.

However, DOOM 2 introduced a lot of elements that perfected the DOOM engine.

That's a very brave post OP. I'm 100% behind you. Screw the haters man!

Have I gone back in time or...?

...ah no, this really is just tenth thread on this subject.

so brave

That's actually a very popular opinion. AFAIK that is.

MusicallyInspired said:

Have I gone back in time or...?

...ah no, this really is just tenth thread on this subject.

I'm sorry. Allow me to go back through the entire DoomWorld forum scouting for threads on this topic. xP

Voros said:

That's actually a very popular opinion. AFAIK that is.

Perhaps you're right. I guess I just haven't seen much love for the first game's design. The second one had some cool maps, but a lot of them feel dull and uninspired at times. *Cough* Underhalls...

The whole Doom vs Doom II thing has got to be the most popular argument ever. There will still be threads on this in 2025.

And nobody will ever be right or wrong.

This is a beautiful thread OP.

PhantomTMac said:

However, DOOM 2 introduced a lot of elements that perfected the DOOM engine.

Now, THAT's debatable at best. All it did was introducing 1 new weapon, new monsters and linedef actions, but as far as the engine went, Heretic and Hexen were far more innovative, within limits ofc.

Maes said:

All it did was introducing 1 new weapon, new monsters.

It introduced the SSG, which has become the most iconic weapon for Doom.
It introduced the Revenant, which has become an iconic demon of Doom.

The rest is debatable. Although, people mostly think Doom 2's disadvantage is the browniness at times, where Doom 1 was a bit more vibrant in color. IMO.

Voros said:

It introduced the SSG, which has become the most iconic weapon for Doom.
It introduced the Revenant, which has become an iconic demon of Doom.

Then the real debate is whether these are "engine features" on par with e.g. freelook, slopes, an inventory system, raised limits, PWAD sprite merging etc.

Never seen this one before.

PhantomTMac, you're a part of the PEOPLE WHO ARE WRONG majority:

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/89177-what-is-your-favorite-doom-game-poll/
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/87102-why-do-so-many-people-dislike-doom-ii/
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/89124-doom-vs-doom-ii/

I too have controversial and unpopular opinions. For example, I believe that pictures of cute baby animals are good.

^wow, you monster.

PhantomTMac said:

Not sure how many people will agree with me here, but I find the maps in DOOM 1 to be much more creative and enjoyable than the maps in DOOM 2.

However, DOOM 2 introduced a lot of elements that perfected the DOOM engine.

no.... No... NO! NOOOO!!

yes.... Yes... YES! YEESS!!

Finally someone who thinks like me. Prepare to be banned.

^you do realize that was sarcasm?

I think we shouldn't buttfuck animals. Thats just me though.

I think this thread is awesome, and should not be post-helled.

PhantomTMac said:

I'm sorry. Allow me to go back through the entire DoomWorld forum scouting for threads on this topic. xP

You don't have to go far. You'll find at least one on this very page. ;)

How many times are we going to reiterate this?

LittleInferno said:

I think we shouldn't buttfuck animals. Thats just me though.

I've lost my voice, it was too funny for me.

Keep it up.

Think we've heard this enough times already.