kulma Posted November 22, 2002 magikal said:Also I think the idea is to kick these 2 maps around for a few days or even a week to see what you can come up with. uh, i think i've already kicked around map02 and e1m2 for TWO weeks. i mean, the two most played maps after map01 and e1m1 :P well if you didn't like my demos then i can't help you :P and heh, compet-n speed for uv map02 is 40 seconds, and i'm struggling with twice the time, i don't think there's much to do with compet-n demos with thses ones, even if they'd be recorded with vanilla doom. but if i'll post another demo here, i'll make sure it's from a source port, okay?-P e1m3 speed is tough! :) 0 Share this post Link to post
magikal Posted November 22, 2002 DEMOn said:Magikal: Is MBF okay, then? MBF is the only windows port I can tolerate for movement. I would think so. It's a great port isn't it? You don't see it used or mentioned much nowadays (generally that is) and I know exactly what you mean about the movement. 0 Share this post Link to post
DEMOn Posted November 22, 2002 no offense to anyone, but I can't stand the extra movement and non-Doom 'feel' to almost all the source ports. and this thread was also about showing how you 'just play' the game... and Doom.exe is what I use. Boom/MBF are very close to the real thing though. it is hard to play seriously with any of the advanced ports(Leg, Zdoom, Edge...) an example: Ocelot's recent dm demos. no one could do that with anything but the real game. overall, it's okay. I like to watch your guys' demos. :) maybe I'll Zdoom e2m8 for fun... 0 Share this post Link to post
magikal Posted November 22, 2002 DEMOn said:maybe I'll Zdoom e2m8 for fun... I'd luv to see it. After playing ZDoom and Legacy extensively I would say Legacy's control is a lot more efficient than ZDoom's (ZDoom is superior in other areas of course). If you get a chance, look at some of the different lmps at my page, the ZDoom one was sooo much more difficult with ZDoom than Legacy(couldn't record that map with Legacy). I'm actually un-learning and changing my set-up so that I can play vanilla reasonably well, heh. Kulma, I did enjoy you lmps btw. I just didn't want to watch the same thing over. 0 Share this post Link to post
myk Posted November 22, 2002 Why are you guys discussing what should be used when the point is showing how you normally play? I'm obviously using doom.exe, since it's what I used almost always (had been trying to record a swift e4m6 max... indeed it is tough.) Both prboom and doom95 should play back doom demos, by the way. 0 Share this post Link to post
Nanami Posted November 22, 2002 I usually use ZDoom but I record the demos with Legacy because I don't feel like downloading the older version of ZDoom, and the 1.23 b33 doesn't playback demos correctly. Oh well, the Legacy demos show me pretty well. Oh, and there is a ZDoom demo of me playing Grind2. It's on easy mode, so it plays back correctly. 0 Share this post Link to post
Espi Posted November 22, 2002 Oh well, 2:15 maxdemo of e1m2. Legacy 1.40, at the exit lift I seem to sink through the lift floor, luckily I could get out of there. :P 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted November 23, 2002 Well, I just managed Map02 NM in 2:50 - slow and careful. Tough map for NM; 112% kills tells the story quite eloquently. I'll send it to Opulent in a few days if I can't manage anything better. I tried ITYTD (skill 1) Pacifist, but found it extremely difficult... I reached the blue armour once but with only about 5% health. 0 Share this post Link to post
Opulent Posted November 23, 2002 Grazza: remember that you can grab the red key without crossing the linedef. the 2 lower areas with the blue key are horrendous for pacifist. still hasn't been done for the compet-n, IIRC. good job on the nm! 0 Share this post Link to post
DooMer 4ever Posted November 23, 2002 Espi said:1:33 maxdemo of map02, legacy. Damn! I managed to get only 1.35 maxdemo on UV :) I'll send it to opulent soon. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted November 23, 2002 Opulent said:Grazza: remember that you can grab the red key without crossing the linedef.Yes, I used that trick! The 112% really did involve a lot of rekilling. Indeed, UV Pacifist has only been done as a TAS run, but I thought skill 1 ought to be feasible. I suppose it should be too, but very careful planning and play would surely be required (together with luck, luck and more luck). I did a UV -fast max run (2:01 - bah!), but haven't managed a time on UV Speed or UV Max that I even deemed worth of saving. Anything in the 1:30s looks impressive to me for UV Max. 0 Share this post Link to post
DOOM Anomaly Posted November 23, 2002 Opulent said:Kulma: Your e1m3 link is broken. Dun Dun Dunnnnnnnnn 0 Share this post Link to post
Espi Posted November 23, 2002 Legay map02 demo again, 1:31 nightmare 100% secrets. 0 Share this post Link to post
kulma Posted November 23, 2002 Opulent said:Kulma: Your e1m3 link is broken. fixed, forgot to upload :P 0 Share this post Link to post
Opulent Posted November 23, 2002 updated. let me know if I missed something... Espi's demos are nice... and Magikal whomped on e2m8 in style. :) 0 Share this post Link to post
magikal Posted November 23, 2002 Agreed Grazza, anything in the 1:30's is pretty cool, nice work Espi! I'm still goin' at it.... 0 Share this post Link to post
DooMer 4ever Posted November 23, 2002 Ok, I just sent Map02 UV max 1.35 to opulent. The E2M1 is now there, thanks! I think you missed the map04 demo I sent you. 0 Share this post Link to post
Opulent Posted November 23, 2002 Doomer4ever: nope, it's there. perhaps refresh the page? http://www.doomworld.com/sda/id/d4e04.zip right? 0 Share this post Link to post
Espi Posted November 23, 2002 E2M2 using just berserk fist... no sounds, I was listening to some mp3s. legacy 0 Share this post Link to post
Kaiser Posted November 23, 2002 cheesy speedrun of FinalDoom TNT Evilution map 31 in 0:45 on UV edit: recorded with Prboom 0 Share this post Link to post
Opulent Posted November 24, 2002 awesome, a new player! Are you Kaiser or Deathman? :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Rich Posted November 24, 2002 Opulent! In the spirit of demos for individual style, as opposed to the fastest possible time, I have sent you map 20 in 6:49 using Legacy 1.4. Rich Sham 0 Share this post Link to post
Nanami Posted November 24, 2002 Could I request a demo? Can someone play MAP30 UV? It doesn't have to be speed or anything, I'd just like to actually see someone beat it. 0 Share this post Link to post
Espi Posted November 24, 2002 Here. doom2.exe, because I didn't want to cheat with legacy's freelook and couldn't be arsed to turn it off and stuff. :P Just casual play, missed the brain a couple times. 0 Share this post Link to post
DOOM Anomaly Posted November 24, 2002 Nanami said:Could I request a demo? Can someone play MAP30 UV? It doesn't have to be speed or anything, I'd just like to actually see someone beat it. On DoomII? well I got one, if anyone is nice enough to host it I'll email it to them...its done on UV, 3800% kills, 3:52..not the best, but, meh... on second thought, Opulent, I'll send you it, kay? EDIT:...Sent to ya Opulent :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Rich Posted November 24, 2002 Opulent! I'm sending you another individual style demo. This one is a max of map 29 in 8:54 using Legacy 1.4. Rich Sham 0 Share this post Link to post