Torn Posted August 11, 2006 Hey, I have been lurking around on the board and it seems like many people were interested in mapping for heretic. I was thinking, sure why not. Heretic really need a original megawad, as it has none, zero, any. Just check the idgames archives for yourself. So here is a community chest type of project for heretic, going for 3 episodes. And if you have a better name but just "community chest", please post it in this thread. :) I hope people will jump aboard. :) Note: Doesn't have to be heretic vanilla valid, just limit-removing, so it can be played on sourceports like Jheretic or Zdoom. Offical texture wad is here. ---- Episode 1: E1M1: Torn *Done* No Name E1M2: iori E1M3: KingofFlames E1M4: Psycho Siggi E1M5: Kaiser *Done* Town Of WitchCraft E1M6: Use3D E1M7: Dreadopp E1M8: t.v. E1M9: pcorf * Done * Lucifer's Spell Episode 2: E2M1: AgentSpork E2M2: DomRem E2M3: zap610 E2M4: Tango E2M5: HobbsTiger1 E2M6: SlayeR E2M7: Torn E2M8: lupinx-Kassman * done * Sky Gateway E2M9: OmegaJ4 * done * The Aqua Tunnel Episode 3: E3M1: Xaser E3M2: chopkinsca E3M3: Ismaele E3M4: Joe E3M5: Danarchy E3M6: Kirby E3M7: Tormentor667 E3M8: alterworldruler * done * D'sparil's Final Hour E3M9: Psycho Siggi Episode Backup: E4M1: Lorenzo * done * E4M2: Torn E4M3: Mechadon E4M4: Liberation E4M5: E4M6: E4M7: E4M8: E4M9: Episode Backup 2: E5M1: E5M2: E5M3: E5M4: E5M5: E5M6: E5M7: E5M8: E5M9: 7 maps done. 0 Share this post Link to post
sirjuddington Posted August 11, 2006 I'm in ;) I'll take *picks random map* e2m6 I guess. 0 Share this post Link to post
Lüt Posted August 11, 2006 Heh, well what I had in mind was more like getting all the existing Heretic mappers or mappers with existing projects together to see if there was any chance of combining into a team to get a single large project out. But I suppose this could work too. For me, I've got about 3 episodes in the works being revised for Eternity. I intended for it to be a full 3, but I am missing 1 map from E1, 2 from E2 and 3 from E3. Problem is, they're all my consistent style and I don't think they'd mix well with other people's, but it's possible. So I don't know if I'll start a new one for a new project, but I think it's worthwhile sharing works-in-progress and seeing if perhaps there's a chance of combining projects for the sake of getting something out. After all, there's 5 episodes to replace, and CC3 is having a hard enough time doing 32 maps from scratch. That's not to say I won't: I have some stuff in mind that I'm sure won't fit with my current maps because it's too complex and would throw off the design balance in the episodes. But it's not beyond the planning stages. When it does go beyond, I'll take a slot. Otherwise, I think dealing with WIPs is a good place to start. 0 Share this post Link to post
esselfortium Posted August 11, 2006 I like the idea; I don't think I'll be joining though (not yet, at least), because I've already got too many projects going on. Even though this is a community chest project, have you thought about organizing specific themes for the episodes? I don't know much about Heretic's episode themes, but seeing as it's not just one block of 32 maps like Doom 2 is, it would make more sense to organize them somehow. Just a thought. 0 Share this post Link to post
Use Posted August 11, 2006 I'm excited about this, I have many projects on the burner but i too am intersted. I've never made a heretic map but I played the bejesus out of the game back in the day and think I could do a sweet one. I may be interested in episde 3 styled levels, blue blue BLUE! Lemme try to finish some stuff off in the next few weeks and then I'll try and join. 0 Share this post Link to post
Aleaver Posted August 12, 2006 Im in.. I'll take E1m7. Even though I'm project lead of CC 3, I always find that alittle distraction so to speak from time to time helps out..(atleast for me). 0 Share this post Link to post
JadedLexi Posted August 12, 2006 I'll take E1M2! Mind if I submit the first level for my GZDoom episode? 0 Share this post Link to post
Sporku Posted August 12, 2006 I've started on my map already. It's kind of refreshing working with a different set of textures than what I'm used to, even if they are quite limited. Some random (early) screenshot: 0 Share this post Link to post
Lüt Posted August 12, 2006 esselfortium said:Even though this is a community chest project, have you thought about organizing specific themes for the episodes? I don't know much about Heretic's episode themes, but seeing as it's not just one block of 32 maps like Doom 2 is, it would make more sense to organize them somehow. Just a thought.And one worth discussing. I think most people mapping for this would be familiar with the original themes, so I would think something in a similar style would be a good start, though perhaps not as inspired by the original maps as, say, Flashback. At this point, I'd suggest people choosing map slots choose one where their map might fit into the original game. Also, Torn, to avoid any further confusion I'll edit map requests into your map index if I see new ones that you haven't accounted for yet. If you don't mind that is :P 0 Share this post Link to post
Sporku Posted August 12, 2006 Well, so far my map doesn't seem to fit very well with E2 as far as I can tell, so if you decide to go with such a plan then I guess I'll have to switch map slots. :P 0 Share this post Link to post
Lüt Posted August 12, 2006 Heh, well I realize there's only going to be so much coherency in a grab-bag project like this, but aiming for similarities like difficulty or style or even size would help keep some kind of logical progression to the episodes. I'm not trying to limit skill or themes or size, but organizing them according to something of a plan could help people keep general goals in mind or better select the mapslot they want to replace. 0 Share this post Link to post
esselfortium Posted August 12, 2006 Lüt said:And one worth discussing. I think most people mapping for this would be familiar with the original themes, so I would think something in a similar style would be a good start, though perhaps not as inspired by the original maps as, say, Flashback. At this point, I'd suggest people choosing map slots choose one where their map might fit into the original game. Also, Torn, to avoid any further confusion I'll edit map requests into your map index if I see new ones that you haven't accounted for yet. If you don't mind that is :P I feel so validated! :D 0 Share this post Link to post
Dutch Doomer Posted August 12, 2006 Sounds like an very cool idea too bad I don't have Heretic good luck with this project people. Nice screenie AgentSpork if thats an early shot im even more impressed to see the finished map :) 0 Share this post Link to post
MikeyScoots Posted August 12, 2006 I would take part in this, but I dont even have heretic :(. 0 Share this post Link to post
JadedLexi Posted August 12, 2006 I've already got a finished map that I could send in...is it all right if I pick E2M8 to work on as well? 0 Share this post Link to post
Aleaver Posted August 12, 2006 Question. Are we going name the maps. If we do, mine is called Lost Wonder. 0 Share this post Link to post
Torn Posted August 12, 2006 Great to see people joining this project. :) I have been thinking about this project for about 1-2 years, as Heretic has no megawads and it would be great to have one. :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Fletcher` Posted August 12, 2006 Good thing about heretic is there's FIVE episodes to fill. 0 Share this post Link to post
Xaser Posted August 12, 2006 Haha, haven't logged in here forever... :P Anyway, I see that E3M1 is still open... if I add something, it would be rather short, so maybe an 'intro' map slot would work well. I'll take it if nobody else minds. Oh, and if anyone remembers Wimpy Heretic, I guarantee that my map won't be like that one again (ie, this will have some actual room to maneuver). :P Also, is there even any sort of deadline for this one? Or am I just being my usual self and missed something entirely obvious. 0 Share this post Link to post
Torn Posted August 12, 2006 Aleaver said:Question. Are we going name the maps. If we do, mine is called Lost Wonder. Yes, but maybe you all could write that in your text file, when you are finished with the map(s). 0 Share this post Link to post
Torn Posted August 12, 2006 KingofFlames said:I'll take E1M2! Mind if I submit the first level for my GZDoom episode? Well, if it can run in limited-removing source port for heretic, then it is fine. Not if it uses any Zdoom features. 0 Share this post Link to post
188DarkRevived Posted August 12, 2006 I'd love to see this completed hopefully around Christmas time. Would be a lovely gift. Anyways, why couldn't people just think of the idea sooner? Like back in 2003 for instance? I would've absolutely been glad to help you guys out at that time. Could've tried to contribut a map for either Episode2 or Episode3. But nowadays I've only got enough time to play and to chitchat due to the fact that I need to work and worry about reapplying to a university...That shit takes away my time for mapping. Anyways, I'll be monitoring your progress, folks. Bless you all. 0 Share this post Link to post