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BABEL

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THE CYBERDEMON BABEL AND TWO ARCHVILE AWAIT YOU IN A PIT OF DEATH....


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Saturn

  
A rather unattractive Tower of Babel clone. Not totally ugly, and is a little feisty, but otherwise stupid. You can literally run to the exit without killing anything. Running Boom with Doom 2 1.9

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The secrets can act like hiding spaces! Anyone agree?

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Perseus guys... this is all he does. Uploads crap. But it's been getting worse with time lol. He should be banned from uploading anything.

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Even though i am grateful that these old maps are being uploaded online for those that missed out, I cannot defend this map at all. All you get in this wad is a large area with marble columns, 2 archviles and 1 cyberdemon. You must race through to the exit or stay and fight, a trap is also located in the exit room. You get rockets and BFG to fight back with, the map is beatable in less than 15 seconds and is ugly as sin. I would skip this one. 0/5

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I don't understand why Ty accepted this upload, or others like it. There is no text-file from the original mapper granting any permission to distribute. That means Perseus doesn't have any right to upload it. It's totally clear-cut, and seeing this would take just a glance at the txt. If in cases like this you want to release someone else's wad, you need to contact them. If they say no, or if you can't contact them, then you just have to accept that the wad can't be released. Life will go on.

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HI GRAF

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VOMIT.

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Not bad, with some minor changes would make a good E2M8 (if Doom actually had archviles). There are some secrets but they don't seem to do anything...

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shoulda jus left dis 1 on d hardrive.

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An early 1995 map. Back then, this may have been a bit of a challenge, but to modern doomer's, this is way too easy with far too much ammo. And yes, the secrets are a waste of time (at least on UV). meh 2/5

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This is not a reupload or anything, just Perseus dumping whatever garbage he could scrape off the underside of his toilet again. Just by reading the reviews you can have more fun than you would by playing this level.

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    • By Argenteo · Posted
      It took me several tries to unwrap the map but I really enjoyed it. J Flynn still amazes me. A tricky great map.
    • By kin0agent · Posted
      This map is beautiful to look at and amazing to play. It reminds me of a something I'd see from a map in the late 90s and I love it.
    • By Teo Slayer · Posted
      I'm breaking up with Valiant to start my new love with Hellbound. Best DOOM mapset that has been made. I have replayed it more than once with Brutal DOOM Platinum and Final Doomer(Hellboundguy class) and I still can't get tired of it. Cities, hellish maps, tech bases, I just love it. I also really like the combination of E2M1, E2M2 and E2M3 in Map19. Amazing stuff right there, I strongly recommend this
    • By Astronomical · Posted
      I forgot to review it when I first finished it, but I played it again with final doomer so I think it's time.   Ancient aliens is beautiful, and it plays as well as it looks.  SkillSaw gives some of his best maps in his career, only matched by his heartland performance.  But the heavy lifting is really done by the presentation, stewboys midis always fit, and the fact the soundtrack is bespoke is incredible.  I personally enjoy all of the maps, only the secret maps have any issues fitting in, and secret maps are allowed to not be great.  My only issue with the wad are the inconsistent 3rd episode, and ironically it's skillsaw's work in that episode that is probably the worst (So good, but not as good as the earlier work in the wad) as the rest of the team turns in great work.  
    • By Astronomical · Posted
      Valiant was hyped up in my mind as a future favorite megawad, Often proclaimed as the best megawad by many.   But it is imperfect. 1. The Super chaingun is lame, not a fan, it want's to be the ultimate weapon, but it is never set up to be powerful, most enemies are too tough too be taken down by it without justifying use of a better weapon, and moments where cannonfodder are plentiful enough to justify it are too rare.  Most importantly chaingun sniping is limited, I almost wish for a regular chaingun because its ability to pick off enemies from a distance was that valuable for me.  The pistol isn't a good replacement for it, so a gap is left to pursue an overlap in the arsenal.  The custom enemies are fun all of them are great.    2. The maps are divided into episodes Ep1 - Earth tech base that is fun Ep2 - Waste episode that is ok I think for 2 or 3 maps but starts to suck later Ep3 - The Darkwave episode Ep4 - Hell that is hell to play Ep5 - Lunatic reloaded (I liked lunatic so it's fun)   The aggressive red and orange maps just unfortunately suck sometimes.  The maps aren't bad but annoying and it feels like they suck out the fun.  The other 3 episodes are fun most of the time but are imperfect.  I love custom monsters and weapons so I had that to look forward too every map, but the wad just isn't fun sometimes.   3.  Maps are detailed, but I personally enjoy vanilla maps so it doesn't appeal to me in that regard.  But In theory you wouldn't notice it because of the speed of play, the best valiant maps would be hard to recreate from memory because they would force the player to go fast.  But that also clashes with Skillsaws love of map 24 the Chasm, I wanted to idclip so many times because I fell off a thin ledge or didn't do the platforming section as well, I didn't but the restraint required was immeasurable.   4.  The aracnorb, cool in theory but combined with high ceilings made me want to hang myself, thankfully Skillsaw made the ceiling so high I can't hang myself from it because there isn't a ladder long enough.   5. I don't have a 5th point but I like the number 5 so I felt disgusting not having a 5th point.   To conclude, Valiant is fine and most of the enemies are cool but it has issues, play at your own risk.
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