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A medium to large sized tech map, use opengl mode!


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This one is actually pretty good, tense action (especially done with monster combos). Fair warning of difficulty. Lighting is cool, but damn does the dull blue makes it hard to see the guys in the beginning! Call me old mother funster, lol. ~4/5

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I enjoyed it, but a bit on the easy side. overall, very good. - 4/5

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It is not a GZDoom map but still you need to use OpenGL renderer to fully appreciate the looks. This map focuses on good detail with colored lighting EVERYWHERE and it makes this map look awesome. But the gameplay is too generic and the music is replaced with unhearable and unfitting ambient noises that result in no music because the map fails at horror. 5 for looks, 3 for gameplay, 2 for presentation and music. Overall 3.49/5 (would be 4/5 if the wad was longer and 5/5 if it had cool gameplay) -Korshun

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5 Stars - Excellent level, loved the atmosphere and details! I liked too the way you used the colored lights. The design itself was really good, focusin more on linear segments, and monsters placements were well done, without inevitable fatal traps. While it was fun, the level was easy, with lot's of health, not that this a negative point however.

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This map is very well done but unfortunately it's too easy. 4/5 - Zalewa Also: SuperGod approved.

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Exellent work from a un-experienced mapper.

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Extremely well made map, especially if you enjoy atmosphere of console Dooms. Very pretty too, I am sucker for colored lightning.

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Very pretty, very atmospheric map. Bit on a easy side.

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I should have known better than to trust dw idgames comments about anything with eyecandy, but I went and downloaded this. It's an average techbase level with the usual lackluster gameplay of hitscanners, imps, demons and the odd D2 monster all thrown around in a haphazardly pattern. The architecture is fairly generic as well (in a bad way), throwing colored lightning around like it's going out of business can't change that. To be fair, it isn't actually *terrible*, unlike many similar wads. 3/5

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Whoever said the gameplay is bad is wrong, I found nothing wrong with it.

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wonderful texture ever!!!!!!

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who's the moron who said cacowad. Dipstick. Average map - 2.5/5

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Quite quite cool, with ambient music and colored lights like the PSX version. Nice map! 5/5 - Optimus

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An great level for GZDoom, not a lot of replay value in this, but the new textures, colored lighting and creepy atmosphere add a nice touch.

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Very nice map. Easy but fun! Very atmospheric. Better than those over complicated maps. Too short, but then, i didnt have much time to play!

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Good looks. Bad gameplay.

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Very nice level. The coloured lighting, reverse lifts and dithered textures add a nice touch. Shame only 1 map. Looks like the author must have offended the two reviewers above. Recommended for a couple of minutes of fun. dwrTag

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H8ters h8, this is a great WAD with good gameplay and detail that enhances the mood and adds to the play. It's nicely laid out with a Quake feel, and it keeps you on your toes throughout. Not sure about award material, but it's easily a cut above most of the new levels being uploaded.

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I'm not sure if ordered dithering is good for Doom textures, but I liked the overall quality of new content.

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Definitely nothing wrong with the gameplay.:) Great atmospheric map, with good use of Doom 64 style lightning. Shame that this author didn't made more stuff.

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An extremely good map - great atmosphere, encounter design, all of it. I like the absence of the Super Shotgun; makes the battles feel less samey. 5/5.

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I smell this wad's a nominee for the cacowards :D! - Netherstorm

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Excellent ambiance and design, average fights. Plenty of cute little homages to classic maps (especially E1M1) placed throughout. However, a couple of bugs drag it down. The first: sectors 937 and 937 are tagged as secret, but are purely decorative and unreachable. So you'll only get 4 out of 6 secrets maximum. The second: the lines leading to a teleporter toward the exit area runs a script that spawns some monsters, but they are flagged as repeatable, which is kinda dumb. Pretty darn good.

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This wad is extremely atmospheric in a nice PSX style, and it's great how the author kept it from interfering with the gameplay as well as a straightforward blastfest.

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very good, but not THAT good - 4/5

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  • File Reviews

    • By Argenteo · Posted
      It took me several tries to unwrap the map but I really enjoyed it. J Flynn still amazes me. A tricky great map.
    • By kin0agent · Posted
      This map is beautiful to look at and amazing to play. It reminds me of a something I'd see from a map in the late 90s and I love it.
    • By Teo Slayer · Posted
      I'm breaking up with Valiant to start my new love with Hellbound. Best DOOM mapset that has been made. I have replayed it more than once with Brutal DOOM Platinum and Final Doomer(Hellboundguy class) and I still can't get tired of it. Cities, hellish maps, tech bases, I just love it. I also really like the combination of E2M1, E2M2 and E2M3 in Map19. Amazing stuff right there, I strongly recommend this
    • By Astronomical · Posted
      I forgot to review it when I first finished it, but I played it again with final doomer so I think it's time.   Ancient aliens is beautiful, and it plays as well as it looks.  SkillSaw gives some of his best maps in his career, only matched by his heartland performance.  But the heavy lifting is really done by the presentation, stewboys midis always fit, and the fact the soundtrack is bespoke is incredible.  I personally enjoy all of the maps, only the secret maps have any issues fitting in, and secret maps are allowed to not be great.  My only issue with the wad are the inconsistent 3rd episode, and ironically it's skillsaw's work in that episode that is probably the worst (So good, but not as good as the earlier work in the wad) as the rest of the team turns in great work.  
    • By Astronomical · Posted
      Valiant was hyped up in my mind as a future favorite megawad, Often proclaimed as the best megawad by many.   But it is imperfect. 1. The Super chaingun is lame, not a fan, it want's to be the ultimate weapon, but it is never set up to be powerful, most enemies are too tough too be taken down by it without justifying use of a better weapon, and moments where cannonfodder are plentiful enough to justify it are too rare.  Most importantly chaingun sniping is limited, I almost wish for a regular chaingun because its ability to pick off enemies from a distance was that valuable for me.  The pistol isn't a good replacement for it, so a gap is left to pursue an overlap in the arsenal.  The custom enemies are fun all of them are great.    2. The maps are divided into episodes Ep1 - Earth tech base that is fun Ep2 - Waste episode that is ok I think for 2 or 3 maps but starts to suck later Ep3 - The Darkwave episode Ep4 - Hell that is hell to play Ep5 - Lunatic reloaded (I liked lunatic so it's fun)   The aggressive red and orange maps just unfortunately suck sometimes.  The maps aren't bad but annoying and it feels like they suck out the fun.  The other 3 episodes are fun most of the time but are imperfect.  I love custom monsters and weapons so I had that to look forward too every map, but the wad just isn't fun sometimes.   3.  Maps are detailed, but I personally enjoy vanilla maps so it doesn't appeal to me in that regard.  But In theory you wouldn't notice it because of the speed of play, the best valiant maps would be hard to recreate from memory because they would force the player to go fast.  But that also clashes with Skillsaws love of map 24 the Chasm, I wanted to idclip so many times because I fell off a thin ledge or didn't do the platforming section as well, I didn't but the restraint required was immeasurable.   4.  The aracnorb, cool in theory but combined with high ceilings made me want to hang myself, thankfully Skillsaw made the ceiling so high I can't hang myself from it because there isn't a ladder long enough.   5. I don't have a 5th point but I like the number 5 so I felt disgusting not having a 5th point.   To conclude, Valiant is fine and most of the enemies are cool but it has issues, play at your own risk.
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