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Are you using this resource wad?

Map 25 UV-Max in 3:58 id25-358.zip Heh I was running this (very) on and off for the past year or so, short sessions every couple of months to relax. Finally got a sub-4:00 with no missing monsters (>95% of exits had something left behind somewhere). Thanks for all the fills NeilK, I was hoping someone would do these. :)

The beauty of Doom is that it's accommodating of people with diverse tastes -- whatever you like, you might find something to enjoy. For example, some people like playing slaughtermaps. On the other hand, some people like arguing on the internet about slaughtermaps.

Here is one for v3 (all kills, no secrets). I checked, just for curiosity's sake, if it's possible to grab those weapons at the end. Also, items aren't included in traditional maxes anyway. pathlordv3_uvpt_rd.zip I think the map could be better in some ways, so I'll record a demo for v4 if you want, as it's not too strenuous. - Would suggest trimming down the amount of combat that is fighting stuff in front of you in hallways (a notable exception is the two HKs later on in the RL/PR path, which are pretty good thanks to the close quarters). - It feels like there should be something warping behind the player at some point in the SPHOT room (the room containing those two PEs). It's pretty easy to camp the hallway where you enter. - The five 'normal secrets' in the map are a lot less interesting than the optional content, all being Wolfenstein-esque pushwalls to small cubbies. I'd suggest entirely removing at least two of the pushwall secrets, devising an alternate way of getting at least one, and then the rest could be pushwalls I suppose. - The optional content on the other hand is a lot more compelling in that respect. In fact in my very 1st playthrough I entirely missed the YK wing, since I never had a reason to walk up that particular set of stairs that opens it (rather than any other set of stairs). I think the YK could be marked secret, and the berserk area at the beginning as well, with the player start changed to face the main door instead so that it's less obvious that one should go back there (even as it is now, it's not entirely obvious).

I had no idea what you were referring to at first. It looks totally fine. The scene is well balanced around the switches anyway: door to the left, panel center, panel right, all taking up a similar amount of space, horizontally and vertically. (edit: also off-center rather than asymmetrical is a clearer way to describe it.)

Now that is a good thumbnail. Especially upper-left.

Alright let me check my box of speedmapping themes. - BFG vs. cyberdemons - Platforming - Ultra-narrow catwalks - Mandatory archvile jumps - Mandatory blursphere vs. projectile monsters - Timed obstacle course (think Scythe m28) - No health in the whole map - Voodoo dolls in the active playspace (example: JQ2.wad m04)

I'd be willing to help.

Guys slaughtermaps are the best smelling maps in all of Doom*. What do you think all of those copy/pasted pillars are for?! *A notable exception is "Toilet of the Gods".

You might not want to use that emote like that. Unless you're actually putting 'it' out there...

Hmm I wonder why.

A giant @Ajora

All of these maps.* Not only do those wads predate Complex Doom, it's not a mapper's responsibility to balance for gameplay mods and the vast majority don't give it any thought. :P