doom guy66 Posted August 3, 2020 What do you guy's think about not getting 100% kills and secrets? I think it fine if you get most of the kills and secrets this goes for any fps but, I think that if you don't try to find some secrets and get some kills it takes out the fun. 0 Share this post Link to post
DooM Bear Posted August 3, 2020 There was a recent thread on this named “Is 100% kills important?” :-P The general consensus was play whichever way is the most fun for you :-D I’m personally a bit of completionest and like to max everything :-P 6 Share this post Link to post
doom guy66 Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, DooM Bear said: There was a recent thread on this named “Is 100% kills important?” :-P The general consensus was play whichever way is the most fun for you :-D I’m personally a bit of completionest and like to max everything :-P I try to get 100% but if i can't i try to get as much as a can because if i can't find certain secrets i don't like to take forever trying to find them 1 Share this post Link to post
DooM Bear Posted August 3, 2020 Hehehehe same :-P On my first play through of a WAD I’m not too worried about getting 100% secrets (might spend 5-10 mins running around at the end of each level looking for the ones I missed) :-P After that I’ll watch a play through or take a peak in a level editor to find the secrets before jumping straight back on in and going for a UV-max run :-D 1 Share this post Link to post
doom guy66 Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, DooM Bear said: Hehehehe same :-P On my first play through of a WAD I’m not too worried about getting 100% secrets (might spend 5-10 mins running around at the end of each level looking for the ones I missed) :-P After that I’ll watch a play through or take a peak in a level editor to find the secrets before jumping straight back on in and going for a UV-max run :-D i don't really use walkthroughs anymore and never really looked for them in a level editor because I like to try to maybe find them in the next playthrough 0 Share this post Link to post
Redneckerz Posted August 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, doom guy66 said: What do you guy's think about not getting 100% kills and secrets? I think it fine if you get most of the kills and secrets this goes for any fps but, I think that if you don't try to find some secrets and get some kills it takes out the fun. This particular thread is only a few weeks old, did you try to search this first? 2 Share this post Link to post
doom guy66 Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, Redneckerz said: This particular thread is only a few weeks old, did you try to search this first? No I just made a post about this because i didn't wanna know if it was important but what people thought about and if they always have to do 100% kills and secrets or they just make it there goal to get to the exit 0 Share this post Link to post
Hitboi Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DooM Bear said: There was a recent thread on this named “Is 100% kills important?” :-P Well- I got Ninja'd ): Edited August 3, 2020 by HitBoi64 3 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted August 3, 2020 I used to care, but some maps out there make it particularly un-fun to get 100% of everything. Besides, sometimes it's far more satisfying to use a shortcut route through a map to evade some particularly nasty places. Insert other media 8 Share this post Link to post
Redneckerz Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, doom guy66 said: No I just made a post about this because i didn't wanna know if it was important but what people thought about and if they always have to do 100% kills and secrets or they just make it there goal to get to the exit Then you could have used that thread for that since its practically the same topic. :) Its (AFAIK) okay to bump a two-three week old thread for that. 1 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted August 3, 2020 I try my best to be the ULTIMATE DEMON-KILLING MACHINE and try to make sure nobody is left alive. As for secrets? Well, I try to find them at times, but I tend to get on all right without them. That being said though, I do hope to improve my ability to find them. My friends @Phobus and @DuckReconMajor have a real keen sense for 'em and I'd like to be able to be at least half as good as they are at finding 'em heh. 4 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) I tend to care about kills, but if that involves hunting every last one of them or going through obnoxious areas or battles, no thanks. And I couldn't care less for secrets, I care so very little about them I'm glad modern games pretty much killed them off, give or take a few easter eggs in places maybe. Edited August 3, 2020 by seed 6 Share this post Link to post
Dranyan Posted August 3, 2020 I don't think people actually care about getting 100% kills and secrets or not. Because it's not important, unless you're planning to do a speedrun on UV-Max category which requires you to kill every enemy (except lost souls) and get all the secrets 2 Share this post Link to post
Doom-X-Machina Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, seed said: I tend to care about kills, but if that involves hunting every last one of them or going through obnoxious areas or battles, no thanks. And I couldn't care less for secrets, I care so very little about them I'm glad modern games pretty much killed them off, give or take a few easter eggs in places maybe. Pretty much this 100%... I like killing stuff :D so I'll always try to get 100% kills unless it's just ridiculous to do so. Secrets, yeeeeeeeah if I find them, cool, but I don't tend to go looking for them intentionally. 0 Share this post Link to post
DuckReconMajor Posted August 3, 2020 If I could sneak past every demon and exit with 0% kills I would. The secret-hunting that Biodegradable mentions is just desperation when I have 12% health left. 5 Share this post Link to post
StoneMason Posted August 3, 2020 I have level totals disabled from appearing on the automap/hud, so I don't really think about getting 100% most of the time. 2 Share this post Link to post
GarrettChan Posted August 3, 2020 It's the same thread... For blind playthrough, I just go for whatever. If I found a trick to skip the map, it depends on my mood whether I do it or not. Usually I try to kill as much as possible to see whether the resource placements are good, but I don't push myself to max it. For maps that I want to max... well, I have to 100% I guess. 2 Share this post Link to post
nicolas monti Posted August 3, 2020 Depending of what I'm playing, I usually go for the exit killing those monsters at sight, but if I really like the map /episode I make the effort of going for the 100%, more probably for small maps or with a monster count below 200. 1 Share this post Link to post
AverageDoomguy Posted August 3, 2020 Sometimes yes sometimes just nope, getting 100% Kills and Secrets is a big problem for some of the 1994/95 wads for example. 1 Share this post Link to post
JadingTsunami Posted August 3, 2020 I enjoy getting 100% secrets because I don't feel like I've really "completed" a map without it. Impossible-to-get secrets are a nuisance, but fortunately modern source ports give the ability to see all the secrets on the automap so you can at least identify them. 100% kills I see as more of a nicety; I won't spend 20 minutes searching for a stray Imp or hunt through monster closets for that one Lost Soul that refuses to cross the teleport tripwire, but if I can see and (reasonably) dispatch all the enemies in an area, I'll do it vs. leaving stray monsters around. 1 Share this post Link to post
Final Verdict Posted August 3, 2020 I will nearly always go for 100% kills, it's rare that I finish a map without doing that. The only time I don't go for it is if those kills are well hidden in some secret area. This is because I'm not particularly fussed about getting 100% secrets. I'll keep an eye out for them, but I'm not about to hug every wall trying to find the last secret. I generally only get 100% secrets on very tough maps where every item and pickup is needed, even then it's out of necessity and still usually around 70-80% of them. Not 100%. The IWAD's are a different matter though, but everyone has done that at least once. 1 Share this post Link to post
Stabbey Posted August 3, 2020 I usually go for full kills and secrets, and often items as well. I get satisfaction from fully clearing a level. If a level looks to be too much of a pain in the ass to do that on, which is rarely, that's different and I might just run for the exit. 1 Share this post Link to post
doom guy66 Posted August 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Redneckerz said: Then you could have used that thread for that since its practically the same topic. :) Its (AFAIK) okay to bump a two-three week old thread for that. Thanks for letting me know :) 1 Share this post Link to post
Chip Posted August 3, 2020 a lot of topics asking this recently! Must be popular. 3 Share this post Link to post
Phobus Posted August 4, 2020 I tend to aim for 100% kills unless the map is kicking my arse or it's incredibly long. Any turreted Cyberdemon is serious temptation for a skipping, though. Especially if they're not in my way or can be worked around. Secrets are something I like to look for, but don't feel too bad about not getting all of. Some mappers hide these tiny little switches in the least expected of places, and there's only so much to gain by hunting them out - especially when it's a single map and you're already most of the way through beating it. I suspect years of mapping has at least attuned me to the most common ways to hide a secret! 2 Share this post Link to post