Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...
  • NOTE: There is a known issue with the most recent entries having screwed-up information and links. Some databases are out of sync and we haven't been able to fix it yet.

Alien Vendetta

   (637 reviews)
Sign in to follow this  

Guest

About This File

Alien Vendetta offers 32 all new levels, ranging from small fast-paced tech-styled ones, to complex medieval- and hellish-themed maps. Variety was to be expected considering several authors had a hand in the making of these maps and as no specific criteria were given to them. AV originated in '96 as a one-man project, but saw many transitions and was eventually made a team effort in August 1999. What started out as a pure "Hell Revealed" follower balanced out to be something in-between that and a more classic looking megawad. We decided to put more emphasize on detailed architecture while trying to keep the at times ultra hard gameplay in focus. Admittedly recreating the intensity of "Hell Revealed" while trying to create more commonly scaled maps turned out to be quite a challenge. As a result the hardness was tuned down a bit, and fun gameplay became more important than making it as hard as possible. When that's said, AV still holds a somewhat harder skill setting than any serious megawad with the exception of "Hell Revealed" and its sequal. In the tougher maps it will indeed challenge the best players on Ultraviolence, and would probably be more frustrating than fun for the common Doomer. Fortunately we put effort into all levels of difficulty, and would advise anyone who is not looking for hordes of monsters (and the need for planning in order to survive) to play skill 2 or 3. AV skill 3 plays much like "The Plutonia Experiment" does on its skill 4. Skill 2 would be the favourable pick for anyone who wants to have a more relaxed journey through the levels (be warned tho, even on skill 2 AV holds a few surprises =) Altho map continuity exists between a few levels we decided to go for variation instead of a one-themed 32 level scenario. This difference in scenery from map to map hopefully contributes to less redundant gameplay. Each level is completable from scratch, but when approached this way it should be noted that secret areas become vital for health and ammo supply. The first episode consists of a variety of "earthly" themed maps/bases and a few tech facilities. Difficulty here leans more towards easy even on skill 4, and primarily functions as a warm-up. Episode 2 starts out with a series of techbases and ends up in a more brick styled fashion. The first really hard scenes for the average player will occur in this episode. The final chapter is mainly hell themed and holds the most extreme levels in terms of hardness. A few of these are up to "Hell Revealed" difficulty. If you're looking for a challenge combined with atmospheric levels, Alien Vendetta should be right up your alley. Enjoy :)


User Feedback

Create an account or sign in to leave a review

You need to be a member in order to leave a review

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Guest

Unknown date

   0 of 1 member found this review helpful 0 / 1 member
Well, just OK... I prefer other megawads, this one seems to be artificial in some way...

Share this review


Link to review
Lol 6

  

Awesome megawad, cool maps and cool music. I like the intermission screen music (Heretic E1M9)

 

Excellent. Good job

Share this review


Link to review
P41R47

  

Team TNT, when making their first megawad, TNT: Evilution, brought the innovation, at silly as it sound, of big maps, really big open maps. Something that people didn't know was possible withing the engine limitations. But they went even further after that, making Icarus: Alien Vanguard and Eternal Doom. In both, they showed us that maps not only could be big and long, they could also be puzzle-ish and challenging.

On the other side, Yonatan Donner and Haggay Niv brought the idea of harder maps with a lot of monster density. Maps specifically designed by a speedrunner to speedrun. And with a lot of ingenuity, this couple of mappers make something that to this day is regarded as a breaking moment on map making.

 

Years later, a little team of mappers combined those two branches of mapping into one monstrous megawad. Led by Anders Johnsen, some first timers and some veterans make a megawad that to this day, and possibly forever, will be regarded as the best megawad ever.

Starting with a low key that promises a lot of fun to come, the megawad blend the different mapping styles perfectly on every map with a cohesive look of orange, brown and green, with a few touches of different textures here and there.

 

What can i say that it was already say abouth this megawad? it has everything!!!

Good map design with godly ideas, awesome encounters, awe inspiring visuals, and most important of all, its really fun to play.

 

The story of the megawad is a bit there just to not use the original text screens, but it works and, even if not the better out there, it feels rewarding when they come.

Something about a double cross the aliens make to the UAC and now they make a last attempt to invade us.

 

Anyway, the highlight are all the maps maybe, there is no weak map o the mapset... but i found some uncohesive desicions here and there.

For example, going from techbase to medieval to techbase, to medieval, then egyptian, then medieval, then techbase and then kinda medieval hellish is rather strange, but it works...not at a narrative level, but it works somehow.

 

more specific highlights:

EPISODE 1:

-map04: Seclusion shows a good starting where previous map ends, and thats a neat touch, also the maps is really awesome.

-map05: Crimson Tide has an awesome feel to it. I only see something similar to it on TNT:R map04: Blood Factory, but here it works a lot with a kinda Doom2 map14: The inmost Dens feel to it.

-map06: Hillside Siege awesome episode ending map, and the Hillside is wonderfully made.

-map08: Beast Island the first explorative map and is an awesome really inspiring map with a lot of height variations.

-map10: Toxic Touch the waste tunnels of the castle we found on map08, simply amazing design with a great use of lightning contrast.

-map11: Nemesis. Gigantic map, remind me a little to Joe Pallai's 2002: ADO E4M6: Dementia. But where that map fails, having an obscure progression and being a slog to kill all those barons, Demesis made it good with all the Doom 2 bestiary use at it full extent. Great experience. And awesome episode ending.

 

EPISODE 2:
-map12: Entropy is a great opener for sure, the starting area is awesome and the rest of the map is wonderfully made with a lot of teleport traps that make for a good challenge.

-map13: Suicidal Tendencies, probably one of the most round up maps of the set. Looks good, plays good and have a lot of challenge.

-map15: Bulls on Parade, awesome map with a lot of interesting details like the computer area, or the garden outside. The elevator down is a highpoint on tension for the map.

-map31: Killer Colours. simple and amazing use of recolored textures that make one hell of a map with some neat encounters and color coded enemies, too.

-map19: Alien Resurrection, starts simple, but gradually unfolds into a wonderfully detailed map. Highlight the end corridor with thoose hanging bodies over the bridge.

-map20: Misri Halek, deemed as the best map ever made, it is for me a great achievement, especially under vanilla limits. The starting area is just mesmerizing, and the mountain climb is just awesome. But aside from that, it is a little oppresive, as most action is took underground, and it goes a little longer than one would expect. Aside from that, yes, i haven't see any map like this anywhere else.

 

EPISODE 3:

-map21: One Flow over the Caco's Nest. Linear and fun map with hellish touches and nice rooms to look at.

-map23: Blood Sacrife, starts like a followup to map10: Toxic Touch, and then unfolds into a great castle like map. The castle area has awesome details, like the fake 3d bridges that could make for a confusing progression, but its beyond awesome.

-map24: Clandesite Complex, ehhh totally out of nowhere tech base map. Fortunatelly, its the best tech base map on the set, with a lot of height variations, good encounters and nice visuals. Love when you have to take the route down the sewers. That part is simply amazing!

-map25: Demonic Hordes a map divided on different areas, all of them awesome looking. Starting hellish looking then going for a more Heretic styled area, with a nice building that kinda looks like a graveyard, and then a town square that leds to more side areas. The hillside chaingunner encounter is one of the best looking secrets i have seen ever.

-map26: Dark Dome. Sincerelly, i hate Post Mortem style of maps, supposely they are inspired by Doom2 map29: The Living End, but they don't play at all like it, and Dark Dome is a really hot take on that style. there is almost no safe space, and one could run into a lot of ammo waste. But well, it is fun and really challenging.

-map27: Stench of Evil, linear and fun, with a totally lovable Thy Flesh Consume aesthetic and even an easter egg referencing it.

-map28: Whispering Shadows, long and sprawling map that comes and goes back and forward but is fun and totally good looking.

-map29: Fire Walk With Me, probably my favourite map on the set, a lot of great visuals, and awesome encounters. The hanging imps, just that, just that make this map awesome.

-map30: Point Dreadful, even for being a simple IOS map, it have some interesting things, like the strange sound that plays when you reach the portal, and the totally evil Romero speech that sounds at the IOS. Aside from that, hell, its really hard to find the timing to shoot it, and that fucking elevator is really far away.

 

This mapset proves and stood to time like no other.

Awesome adventure, awesome challenge, awesome visuals.

Every mapset that come later tried to be the next Alien Vendetta.

But to this day, no mapset dethroned the king of all megawads.

 

Thanks to all the AV Team for this marvelous megawad.

You guys surely spend a lot of time on these maps.

Share this review


Link to review
Tindalos

  

Gets way too exhausting by the end, sometimes feels its age and the progression is odd with inconsistent quality. However I'd still recommend it, during its high points it was superb and there are many great maps, just feel bad I couldn't give it a higher rating due to the aforementioned reasons - its quite enjoyable until it isn't.  

Share this review


Link to review
El juancho

  

A WAD VERY ahead of its time, map 20 is my favorite map of all of doom, its shame that the wad gets very slaughtery making the wad a bit of a pain in the end.

 

WAD mandatory to play

 

-JuanchoES

Share this review


Link to review
dubaCRO

  

simply a masterpiece,best wad most probably!

Share this review


Link to review
spd7693

· Edited by spd7693

  

04.09.2020 update: Considering I gave Scythe 4 stars and I most likely would give D2TWID either 3 or 4, I must actually give 5. Reasons: 

 

  1. I liked the combat here far a lot more. 
  2. Definitely doesn't deserve to be that close to D2TWID in terms of rating, it has to be slightly higher and I can't give the latter wad 2 stars.
  3. My initial disappointment didn't at all mean that I dub the wad that bad. I don't know if I liked it less than the majority of the community. 

 

Here is my original review: 

Spoiler

 

The wad left me with mixed feelings after playing it. Some maps were outstanding. Some maps not so. Overall, I expected a lot more from this pack. Particularly the middle maps. 

 

I'm delighted with the challenge and delighted even is too small of a word to explain it. I simply loved it. It was a great test for my skill and an awesome adventure. I wouldn't need to try to drop from UV at all since I managed to complete this one on this level. The combat was decent and in all maps the player is given a fair fight, just with a few miniscule exceptions. So, what's the problem of me not giving 5? Well, here it is. 

 

Yes, I said the fights are fair and decent. But there is a difference with let's say Hell Revealed. In Alien Vendetta the combat goes: "Here are your monsters, find your way to defeat them and go on." In Hell Revealed it goes: "Here are your monsters, choose your way to defeat them and go on." The difference is much noticeable. True, the fights were fair, but there is a little quirk - in over half of the battles with high-tier monsters you were forced to strictly fight them with the BFG. I do not swing this way, sorry. I prefer duelling those monsters, not BFG-bashing them. Especially cyberdemons. I was denied at least 12 duels with cyberdemons due to their placement or the general way the set piece worked, which made the cyberdemon a priority kill. I simply was denied the opportunity to enjoy the fighting to its fullest. In Hell Revealed I could amuse myself with the maps however I wanted. There is one exception though. In HR in map 30 the 4 monsters in one volley way of the Icon Of Sin got the better of me. In AV the map is much bigger and I didn't feel it at all, so I could esily beat the map normally. In fact, I wouldn't have known the monsters were spawned in fours if I hadn't read it. Another exception is map 26 which was Post Mortem cleansed of the reasons I hated it - inverted monster priorities in combat and pain elementals spawning all the way on the other side, seeing you and flooding the level with lost souls before you get a chance to kill them.  

 

The miniscule exceptions I mentioned earlier are the ending of map 17 with the number of arch-viles in the exit that simply is BFG-forced. Before them you also have maybe the worst-ever placed cyberdemon. Such a monster in such a cramped space? There barely is space to go past him and there is no way he doesn't hit you. While the map possesses only one megasphere. The other ones are the start and the end of map 24/25 Hordes Of Monsters. (24 in the first, 25 in the second release.) They're just based on rolling the RNG-dice and surviving. That simply destroys the otherwise perfect map. All the other combat into it was so well thought out and allowed so much so good tactical thinking. A few rooms with forced usage of the BFG, but that wasn't that bad in the end. 

 

The only other map I didn't like is - guess which one - 24. 24 of the second release is simply boring. Just that. I also expected a lot more from map 16 which also I can say I disliked. Not in terms of combat, but in terms of monster placement rather. Personally, I was OK with fighting 6 cyberdemons at a time, but I wouldn't force the player to do that. 

 

And my other complaint is visuals. People, when you make maps, please MARK THOSE LOCKED DOORS AND SWITCHES AND THOSE EXITS!!! Red skulls and red rectangles must be used then and only then when a red door or a red switch is marked by them. Same as blue and green. With the only exceptions being like for instance showing the location of the corresponding key or its pedestal, etc. So many maps used these textures on doors and switches that didn't require those keys or weren't used on such that did. Not to mention something that got me a bit bitter. I often am criticised of my rooms being bland and being just a straight shape. Well, at least I mark my locked doors and locked switches, as well as my exits. Also, the visuals on a few maps didn't impress me at all. Well, why does it impress you then while I get brought down? Seems like most of the criticizm towards me results in me not creating maps for years past or that I'm not a speedrunner of the early 2000s. If this is the quality you want, well, I'd prefer a good fight in a blase room than a bad fight in a well decorated room. And as for the problem "you don't see the exit until you're at the exit", well, how can I see the exit if there is no indication for an exit until you flip the switch or pass a seemingly normal teleporter? Subjectivism in action. 

 

But there is a flip side. All in all, I played this wad for multiple reasons. To analyze the difficulty curve, to see if I can beat it on UV, to take inspirations and to take some map making models. The best for the latter were the maps by @Andy Johnsen (if it really is the Danish speedrunner behind this name.) I kinda like the majority of the maps created by Norse people, particularly the other big Dane Jens Nielsen. Johnsen definitely did the best job of all people who created maps and my comments from above of course address neither of his works. Definitely a player and a mapper I can learn a lot from. All in all, if we exclude the cases where some things made me scream "I can do better than that", I do have a lot to take under consideration. Especially Andy's maps. And especially... my favorite map. 

 

You guessed it. My favorite map turned out to be map 29 Firewalk With Me. No other level ever feels more Hell than this! Visuals, combat, monster placement to the end! Best map I have ever played, most enjoyable too. Even the horde of revenants - my least favorite monster - didn't bother me at all. In fact my comment on the map was "In order to like this map you have to be a nerd. And be proud of it." Well, I consider myself a nerd in some ways. Especially while dancing around cyberdemon rockets. This map gave me so many opportunities for that as well. Other maps I want to highlight - 23, 13 (I believe this was the one with the cyberdemon in the crate room), 18, 26, 27 and 11. I have no words to describe them all. Definitely these are just another reason to play AV. I want to add in map 32 as well which also gives the player a fair fight all in all despite the rough start. 

 

Wow... That's some essay of a review. But something that makes me wonder - should I keep on making new maps or not? After all, if the quality I should aim for is the quality of the greatest AV maps, then is this for me at all? 

 

I was considering 5 stars, but a few disappointments can't allow me to. If there were more cyberdemons available for taking down with the SSG, I could have given 5. So much potential, but not what I expected. But does this deserve a sequel? Definitely! 

 

 

Share this review


Link to review
Juza

  

Can't believe I hadn't written a review for this yet. What's there to say that hasn't been said?

 

It's unique, legendary, fun, and filled with soul. Slaughterful and brutal since the very beginning, no boring build-ups or episodic themes -- It's varied and straight to the point. It's what it wants to be. Not at any point is it boring or lackluster ('cept for MAP17).

 

It's not a 5/5, I love it immensely, but wouldn't tell anyone that it is perfect. Some levels are centered around BFG spamming, and/or straight up grindy. There's inconsistencies, such as some types of floors sometimes being damaging or not, or familar actions that previously require or didn't require switches, or unmarked colored doors.

Share this review


Link to review
DSC

  

Legendary. Once saw someone say that the maps were "ugly". They can have the opinion they want, but man, is this wad out of this world in terms of looks, gameplay and variety. A must-play.

Share this review


Link to review
Rathori

  

Good old-school hard-WAD. Starts at roughly Plutonia difficulty, gets harder and quite slaughtery at the end. MAP20 has terrible progression.

 

It might not have aged too well or something, but it doesn't feel nearly as great as it's hyped up to be. It's still pretty decent and worth a try, but it doesn't hold up too well against modern stuff.

Share this review


Link to review
printz

  

Excellent map set, appealing to challengers and nostalgics alike. There are probably too many revenants and teleport traps (it's amazing how all the different authors coordinated towards this style) but that only means the wad will be so much harder.

 

I wonder if 'alien' refers to the Doom monsters (i.e. they're aliens).

Share this review


Link to review
Denim Destroyer

  

Alien Vendetta is a megawad that has a plenty of good maps mixed with some levels are not as great. The maps I recommend are 1-10 and 18-24. The other 16 maps suffer from odd progression, far too many fights that occur in doorways and tedious slaughter gameplay. My least favorite levels have to be maps 12,13,16. Map 12 consist of multiple maps that were Frankensteined together and is possible to accidentally finish early. Map 13 is a linear level made tedious by flooding rooms with enemies. Map 16 has to be my least favorite as it starts you off with multiple hitscan enemies facing you. Overall Alien Vendetta is a mapset that when it's good it is damn good but is unfortunately dragged by some tedious annoying levels.

Share this review


Link to review
amackert

  

A decent (if slightly dated) set of maps with a moderate level of difficulty for the majority of it. I played it twice recently on UV, both runs played continually. Both saw me enjoying a good portion of the wad, but on each run I left the experience irritated. I feel Map 26 is the true end to the wad, as Maps 27 through 29 are extremely drab, boring slogs that fail to continue the intensity introduced with Maps 25 and 26. Map 30's Icon of Sin fight is also tedious and a poor way to end things, essentially requiring SR50 for the first elevator. Had it not been for these issues (and an excruciatingly sluggish Map 20, but slightly less so on my second playthrough), I would have given the wad four stars. It's easy to see why this was seminal at one point in time, but wads in more recent years have far surpassed it in not only map complexity, but enemy diversity and overall map/wad pacing, among other things. It's most certainly not the greatest megawad ever made, but it's still worth playing.

Share this review


Link to review
Budoka

· Edited by Budoka

  

 

IMPORTANT: DO NOT launch the file "AVMOVFIX.WAD" when playing Alien Vendetta. All it does is remove one of best portions of MAP20. That file was conceived as a fix for demo recording back in a day when processors where much less powerful, and despite being included in the download serves no purpose whatsoever in this day and age.

 

-----------------------------------

 

An epic experience in the most genuine sense of the word, Alien Vendetta's long-standing reputation as the most legendary Megawad of all is entirely deserved, although it isn't quite my number one choice. Variety, quality, creativity and spectacle abound in just about every moment of this very lengthy, challenging adventure.

 

Indeed, it should be clear that even now, in 2018 as of me writing this review, Alien Vendetta still belongs to the realm of the fairly difficult by today's overall PWAD standards. However, this absolutely shouldn't stop any curious players from trying it out, because the content offered is absolutely, positively worth it. In fact, although Alien Vendetta as aged a little, it holds up much better than most of its contemporaries and many of the old classics so lauded by the community.

 

As a negative, I will say that I don't think I approve of that final boss map, which calls upon skills that are never necessary in the rest of the Megawad and generally not a priority of classic Doom gameplay, all the while demanding a very exacting display of said skills from the player. Also, if I really have to nitpick, then I will concede that a couple maps contain very clumsy moments ("Nukefall"...).

 

I will give away no more and let the rare few Doom 2 players who have not yet experienced this masterpiece discover it for themselves. Highly recommended.

Share this review


Link to review
seed

· Edited by Agent6

  

So here goes another wad, one that I for one could easily label as "close to hardcore" . It starts easy, then the difficulty nicely increases, and eventually culminates with some extremely difficult maps towards the end. Very tricky but not impossible to complete despite this undoubtedly initial impression. Most levels involve certain tricks in order to make everything easier, some of them, especially towards the end, relying quite a bit (or a lot, depending on the map) on infighting, such as MAP26. This one was easily among the hardest map at first sight, primarily because in a few words, it's a Revenant fest, most notably at the beginning. Yet all that had to be done there was letting the Cyberdemons take them out, but of course that's easier said than done. Since everything I'm playing is without any prior experience (blind, if you will) it always takes me a while to figure out the difficult maps. I think I died like 50 times in this map but it got easier once I gained experience through trial and error, therefore when I could finally make the enemies start an infight it became much easier.

 

Other maps however are more unforgiving, and that not due to seemingly impossible odds, but because well, the eternal old story, resource starvation. I ran out of ammo an annoying amount of times on the aforementioned map. When everything was clear, surprise, either no health or no ammo, typically remaining with just a few shotgun shells and nothing else. Now of course I should also mention that when I usually say "resource starvation" this does not include whatever can be found in secret areas. I'm usually terrible at locating (most of) them so when I mention that be aware that it primarily refers to what the maps offer during normal play without any secrets involved, or only very few, unless explicitly mentioned. MAP28 was an even worse offender, it's not a particularly difficult level but there was just not enough ammo for what came later, so for instance at the end I completely skipped a room with a Soulsphere and (3 I think) Arch-Viles because I just had no ammo to make it out alive and kill them as well. In my few attempts to grab the bonus they always managed to escape from their own little lair and well, you know what followed, so in the end I decided to skip them altogether and call it a day. MAP23 was also pretty scarce on resources, but not very difficult overall. So despite the nice difficulty curve, it does seem to spike every now and then.

 

My favorite maps are going to be MAP20 and MAP25. No doubt, these maps are very atmospheric with cool music and great gameplay, basically the perfect recipe for a great level, and nothing insane. I didn't really like these levels where the difficulty spikes nastily because they felt more like a test or a pure challenge, and weren't that much fun or enjoyable, yet I wouldn't count them among maps I loathe because they were still great, just mocking the player and very tricky. There are no bad maps here, except perhaps MAP21, it was neither an interesting nor fun level for me and felt more like just a filler and no killer. I was surprised to see that MAP30 was an Icon of Sin map, but frankly I'm really glad it was this and not something nuts serving the purpose of some sort of ultimate challenge after walking through the fire, considering some of the levels preceding it. It took me a few tries to figure things out though, because apparently the lift in this map is completely transparent and has 2 torches placed on it, and I thought the switches only lower them at first when in fact they are supposed to help you by marking something, but once that was out of the way it was piece of cake. I should mention that the lift at the base raises surprisingly fast so you've got to be very quick there, run (strafe) like hell after activating the switch. It's a fitting end to a thrilling but sometimes exhausting and frustrating journey. And that voice at the beginning of the map when you pick up the ammo and the power ups? That was amazing to hear, it sounds just so perfectly inhuman and purely evil, very intimidating and sets the tone for what's around the corner.

 

The music in this wad is very good and it has many different sources. There's vanilla Doom music, some completely new stuff, and even Heretic music. This might sound like a mess on paper, but it works, and rather well no less.

 

However, there are some problems on the technical side of things, or that's how my experience was anyway. I played this in PrBoom+ but every now and then it would become glitched so the stats at the end of the map would be broken and in the upcoming map I would spawn in an incorrect location, thus breaking the map completely and making it impossible to complete. For instance, I had to pistol start MAP13 because I kept spawning in the area where the yellow key normally becomes accessible only later down the road, an area that's normally accessible only with another key, but I had none so there was no way out. This occurred in a few other maps but luckily this could be easily resolved by just restarting the source port and reloading a previous level/save, finishing the map normally, proceeding to the next (offending) level, and everything would correct by itself. It's the first wad in any port I use where I'd ever come across something like this, so I've no idea what caused the problem. I've also had the correct compatibility options set the entire time, for that matter.

 

All things considered, I had a blast (quite the damn literally on so many occasions). It's a solid classic wad that has aged well and is also far from being impossible, but it does take time to understand its most challenging maps if you choose to go for it blind but also well aware of what you're getting yourself into beforehand like I did, so expect a lot of trial and error in this case, but at the end of the day it pays off. And it's not unfair even if some levels do look like this at first sight, but in fact they're not. Remember, these levels usually require you to resort to a couple of tricks, be quick, and careful. Moreover, I also found them rather predictable once I figured them out. If I could pull it off so can you.

Share this review


Link to review
Poncho

  

There simply isn't a WAD that tops Alien Vendetta. Despite being released a good 16 years ago, this could be considered the first "modern" WAD. What I mean by that is that the maps here have tip-top design and attention to detail that is present in practically every WAD released nowadays. Like Memento Mori, its sequel and Requiem, AV brought a lot of Doomers from around the world to contribute (the US, Sweden (?) and Norway to name a few).

 

Each map has its own identity, and thus they are ALL memorable. The first level immediately tells you that the details, lighting and enemy placement is gonna be spectacular. Once you get to Map03 and see the city overlooking the main station, you know this is something that is way more advanced than anything before it. When it comes to Map11 and Map20... well, we all know how epic THOSE two look. Those two maps still look better than most maps today!

 

Of course, the look of the levels aren't the only thing that make-or-breaks a game. The gameplay here is nothing short of brilliant. All the maps besides Map21 (which is a Tyson-based map) are balanced for pistol-start and also for continuous gameplay, which is nice. I said before that each map has an identity, or a personality. This is true in the fact that the traps, secret placement and challenge are all different yet balanced. AV gradually gets harder and harder, reaching its boiling point with Map27.

 

Speaking of that map, there aren't that many slaughtermaps in the WAD. Maps 25, 26, 27 (yep, three in a row) and 32 are, but as I said before, each are identifiable and aren't brainless BFG spam. 25 isn't too hard, though 26 and 27 take the cake as the two hardest maps in the set.

 

Memorable set pieces I can recall are the Cyberdemon zone in Map06, the Demon horde in Map15, the Mastermind madness area in Map18, the island climb in Map20 and the waterfall trap in Map26. Everything is memorable here!

 

If there's ANYTHING I can criticise, it's a bit weird having the techbase levels start in Episode 2. Though then again, that makes the WAD that bit more original. Oh yeah, and Map30 can be a bit annoying, if only for that one lift.

 

Oh course, I can't write an AV review without mentioning the great Kim André Malde, who passed away a few years ago. I heard he was a talented mapper but, more importantly, a lovely person in real life. Rest in piece.

 

Favourite Maps: 04, 09, 10, 11, 20, 25, 29

 

"Least" Favourite Maps: 06, 19, 27, 28, 30

 

My Rating: 4 / 4 (thus a full 5 / 5)

Share this review


Link to review
Summer Deep

· Edited by Summer Deep

  

This megawad seems to have a fearsome reputation, but I was surprised by how playable and straightforward it was. Maybe the main reason I found it so manageable was that, being just an averagely good doomer, I played on HMP difficulty with the odd save within the levels. The maps are generally well constructed, and even the handful of 'slaughterish' ones are hard but fair: though the fact that even on HMP the wad contains over 30 Cyberdemons means that it's still a decent challenge.....

 

My only complaint would be with level 30, an IoS affair which, like quite a few others I've encountered, is unworthy of the wad as a whole. If playing 'by the book', one is forced to attempt SR50 strafe runs along a lengthy section of wall, which soon becomes infested with all sorts of monsters. I suspect that the vast majority of players, and even quite a few seasoned campaigners, will have no chance with this, though they'll be able to avoid this issue by aiming with mouselook. 

 

I'd also recommend acquiring the original version of the game from the AV official website, as it contains the famous (notorious?) Valley of  Echoes level 25, which didn't make it into the final version of the game, but is well worth a look.

 

Overall, 4+ out of 5.

 

 

Share this review


Link to review
Endless

  

There is no presentation for this mythic wad, it is something that belongs to the history of Doom and the community, one of the first and most brilliant works done by fans, a megawad that surpasses any expectations and that innovates with so much fun and genius. My first megawad in my life, the first one completed, I was just hooked and enjoyed every single map, without a doubt, something epic and fantastic to play that I am grateful to have known.

Share this review


Link to review
galileo31dos01

· Edited by galileo31dos01

  

Done on HMP/continuous/saves

 

Good old wad. It has it's beautiful scenarios with very neat detailing, for example in map 20, which is purely egyptian. Most maps are linear, some too linear, and others annoyingly too linear. I generally don't mind backtracking for, ammo for example, but I found some maps with odd pickup placement, where a lot of handful ammo is in the first areas, and I had to backtrack several times. Map 27 comes to my mind, imagine myself returning from the end to the start point more than once to look up for ammo.  

 

Monster placement is, in the majority, ok. There are some cheap traps specifically with archviles and no cover. In maps 08 and 20 I died in the same kind of traps, an archie appearing in front of me in a corridor without escape. Due to this I had to keep my continuous BFG all the time. Apart from that, some really brutal scenarios, and high number of infighting circumstances, this is what I liked the most.

 

Midis are cool, some Doom and Heretic tracks, as well as others. Secrets are not very interesting in this was to be honest, some of them don't give you any clue to find them. 

 

My favourite maps are 06, 12, 18, and 24. Unfortunately, map 30 is the only one I completely disliked and didn't even bother to complete it legally. 

 

But overall I still had fun, I do think it's a little overrated, by reading general thoughts by people I sometimes don't understand what they see in this wad as legendary or epic. On another side, finding other wads inspired by this one is good and tells how much it impacted on mappers, so that's a good thing. I'll give this a 7/10 

Share this review


Link to review
Demtor

  

A lot of ambitious contributions by a lot of talented people. A few of them being misses but overall a varied mix of good to great maps with a splattering of slaughter here and there. Some had an older style feel to them but nothing that ever detracted from the overall presentation. Worth a look.

Share this review


Link to review
Deadwing

  
After playing this, I was kinda disappointed since this usually gets a lot of praise. Most levels are a lot linear and monster placement is really basic, where most enemies are just blocking your linear way. This slows down the flow a lot and making things quite boring. I quit after map 26, with these more slaughter levels where you just have to grind to progress.

Share this review


Link to review
Combinebobnt

  
Doesn't even need aliens

Share this review


Link to review
Spectre01

  
Good wad but not legendary. A lot of the maps tend to drag and there are multiple hallways filled with dozens of imps which are a slog to shoot through. Some of the later maps especially can take over an hour to complete and have annoying layouts with lots of backtracking. The visuals and detailing is very nice though and none of the maps run like crap, which is always a plus. 4/5

Share this review


Link to review
Guest

  
Pretty darn good. But not legendary. Great considering its age though

Share this review


Link to review
Guest

  
After starting this WAD, i just felt desire to play Descent 1 again :D Good sountracks, but it is kinda boring to play

Share this review


Link to review
  • File Reviews

    • By Lol 6 · Posted
      Neither bad nor amazing. Giving it 4 stars because I actually enjoyed it
    • By Endless · Posted
      Cute, awesome and quite solid! Little map with a lot to pack. Would love to see a megawad or episode mapset in this style
    • By Denim Destroyer · Posted
      Picture this: you are playing a community project megawad and are still within the first ten levels. Some of the levels you have already played are fun but then you arrive here. Nothing bad or good and is over before you know it. The perfect level between two good levels in a megawad.
      Vanillic Acid is not part of a megawad or even a level set but exhibits all of the characteristics of a filler level. It has all the base characteristics of a Doom level and fails to do anything interesting with it. This level isn't bad but in the ocean of idgames why bother taking the time to play this one?
    • By Argenteo · Posted
      Awesome midis. Some maps appear to be filler? I don't dislike them. I like to take breaths. My absolute favorite is Procustes Chambers (24). Replayed and re-enjoyed again. Great music!
    • By Summer Deep · Posted
      Very worthwhile map, starts out pretty tough, then becomes more manageable, but always challenging enough. Plenty of chaingunners, Barons, Revenants etc, but the big two are absent. All it really needs is a bit more of a 'big bang' ending.
×