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Status Updates posted by Job

  1. Hot take: Dr. Sleep, Tom Mustaine and Sandy Peterson are my mapping dream team. 

    1. Marcaek


      IDK if it's a hot take to say what your mapping dream team is.


      A hot take is more like: "John romero was the worst iD mapper, here's why:"

  2. At work, recovering from swapping the rear axle on my Jeep this weekend. I didn't think I could do it, but I pulled it off. Cool.

  3. Do you ever feel as though it's easier to map for Doom 1 due to the wider variety of base textures and fewer weapons, pick ups and enemies? 

    I do. Sometimes, it feels as though its lacking allows you to distill the gameplay into its simplest essence, whereas Doom 2 can sometimes feel "over-nuanced." Of course, that's just my opinion.

    1. Albertoni


      I really, really like the spots the new enemies fill.


      That said, yes, the simplicity makes for calmer maps, no way you're doing skillsaw style battles in good old Doom 1. And I like that.

    2. Fonze


      Doom 1 fits a different gameplay bill than Doom 2, with much more emphasis on slower-paced combat and exploration. I do love me some Doom 1 textures, along with tnt ones, but once it gets to the gameplay building phase you will have to jump through more hoops to make the monster/item placement "fun." However, I do heavily miss woodmet and tekgreen textures in Doom 1 mapping. But there is a wood texture with horizontal metal support strips in Doom 1's set, as long as you don't mind cutting it every 24 vertical pixels, lol. Still, the tekgreen textures are incredibly useful for bits of horizontal trim of varying heights. But compohso of Doom 1 is such an incredibly beautiful texture for detailing; I love it.


      The first step of building a map is designing basic shapes, which partly relies on the monsters you intend to use and the gameplay you wish to foster, so even when just starting a map, the extra roster additions of Doom 2 give more degrees of freedom in layout/flow designs.


      Idk, I'd rather take the dive of 1-2 custom textures than give up my pain elementals ;p

  4. I tried making a map for the past hour or so. For some reason I can't stop overthinking it. Of course, that gets in the way of even doing a quick speed map "zero effs given" build. Dang.

    1. Fonze


      What fun would life be otherwise if we were not our own worst enemy? There is no real easy answer to fighting against yourself, but actually experiencing whatever it is; in this case: "drawing random shapes and going with it, few fucks given," and then seeing it turn out okay. Aside from that, merely faith in these words coming from mappers you respect, much as I've heard them from mappers I respect over the years. Don't let your "vision" become your prison.


      That all said I look forward to what you do come up with; good bad or ugly, I don't mind. I dont think I've ever played one of your maps, which puts me at a disadvantage here as you've played one of mine for father's day a couple years ago (which we'll never speak of again, heh).


      Good luck on progress! Definitely post stuff as you can :)

    2. BigDickBzzrak


      Good luck, we need that sequel to impencse.wad! :]


      Serious-ish comment: that just means that you care about not making a total unplayable crap-map. Why is that a bad thing? If it takes a month, so be it.

      (I personally can't draw a single startan1 room in one hour.)

    3. Job


      Thanks for the encouragement, guys. Your input helped push me toward making a new map and getting past the sticking point. I may just finish this one! 


      By the way, Fonze, I have actually released a few maps, although only two of them are something I'd be willing to claim. ;) 

  5. Sweet avatar. 

  6. I'm on lunch at work. Eating last night's sausage mushroom alfredo while trolling the forums. Could be worse.

    1. BigDickBzzrak


      The definition of satisfaction.

    2. Fonze


      Mmm Italian food makes great leftovers. Best part of making such a huge pot of the stuff is the great-tasting, quick, and hearty meals for days to come.


      Just ignore your clogging arteries, heh.

    3. geo


      If its so old it grew mushrooms you should stay away from it. Food safety first!

  7. It's my birthday today, I'm old! :D

  8. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there in forum-land!

    1. Fonze


      Make it a special day! :)

  9. There have been a lot of tweaks and changes since the new forum software was rolled out. I wanted to share how impressed I am with how well (quickly, smoothly) it works now. Some of the stuff that got pared down from the old forum is no great loss and actually streamlines the experience while still keeping things interactive.


    Excellent work to those of you who have been pushing yourselves to get this done. Your efforts haven't gone unnoticed.

  10. I feel that those who are complaining about the forum update are averse and recalcitrant about change. You should be thankful for a webmaster/administrator who cares enough to invest time and money into updating the forum software. That is all.

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    2. dew


      This was essentially a one-man job with very basic forum testing by several people, I mean "yeah this forum engine looks reasonable" testing. Migrating the 20year history of DW and its customized extensions is going to be a painful process. Not even a professional company with full-time employees would transition without issues and this is a hobbyist endeavour.

    3. Zalewa


      dew, why do you work on assumption that migration must happen on the live, "production" system? Was there any rush to switch before getting everything ready?

    4. Job


      At this point, it's kind of a non-issue. I'm not paying for use of DW or interacting with its community and I don't have to deal with ridiculous ads. That sort of precludes me from complaining too much.

  11. At 1:04pm today, my wife gave birth to our second child, and son, Owen Michael. He weighed in at 8lbs and 3oz and is 22 inches long. It was a long labor but he came out happy and healthy. We're really excited and wanted to share the good news. Seems to be as good a thing to blog about as any. :)

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    2. Job


      Jaxxoon R said:

      Good luck with the wee bab.

      The name Owen never used to pop up so often, is it just one of those names that fell out of favor until recently?

      I can't stand the trend of "____en/in/yn" names that's cropped up lately. Seems like there's a lot of unoriginal parents out there. Sadly, these poor kids might have cute names when they're young, but IMO, those names are also hard to grow into as an adult.

      Anyway, according to the hospital staff that helped us, they haven't heard of too many children named Owen as of late, so I guess we hit a slow time for this name, which was the goal. They lamented my point above about the quality of names lately, interestingly enough. Anyway, we named our son Owen because it's actually the maiden name of my grandmother going back several generations (to Scotland, if Ancestry.com is to be believed). We liked that it was interesting enough on its own, not super-common and had a special meaning to us. After we sort of decided to go with it, we "shopped" for names for another week or two but to no avail. Owen it was.

      One thing that pissed me off was the wife had eventually announced our unborn son and shared the name we gave him. One of the older ladies she worked with blabbed to her daughter who then promptly took the name we chose for our son and gave it to her own son who had a 2 month jump on us. I know it's not "our" name but we thought of it first and it actually had meaning...you know, instead of a name you borrowed from a co-worker. So, there's another Owen out there in the metro-area whose story of how he was named isn't particularly illustrious. I had gained a new sympathy for George Costanza with the whole Seven debacle.

    3. BigDickBzzrak


      Job said:

      I can't stand the trend of "____en/in/yn" names that's cropped up lately.

      B-b-but... Owen... you can't stand our own son's name?

    4. Job


      Well, in the strictest sense, you'd be right. But it's not an "original" alternative spelling. At least I didn't go full hipster and use the Celtic (I think) spelling, Eowen.

  12. I drink too much. Probably, on average, about 8-16 fluid ounces daily. This isn't just something that comes out of a dripper, either. We're talking about shots from my espresso machine, moka pot or high-test coffee piled high in my pour over set up. You have to love the laxative qualities and the stimulation from the caffeine is great, even if you're a bit resistant to it like me.

    How much coffee do you drink and when did you last have some?

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    2. Battle_Korbi


      May sound like a kid, but I like cappuchino and cocoa much more than coffee. And I drink such on some occasions, like a cold morning or when there is no bread and there are some cookies in the house.

      I have quite a sweet tooth, and while I don't really crave chocolates and flavored candy, I would rarely turn them down when offered (but I don't take stuff from strangers, sorry rapists). Same goes with liquid. I like to dunk milk chocolate bars and cookies into them first hand, then when done with them, finish the cup.

      Tried some actual coffee while back. Much like beer, I was disgusted and never tried that again. I get it people need it for extra energy, but I am constantly pumped with energy so I don't really need that. However, if things get really rough, a Toblerone bar might be a fine choice for a little pick-me-up.

    3. Cupboard


      fraggle, you've mentioned that highly-caffeinated enriched coffee before.. Overall can you say the effects were enough to make you intoxicated from caffeine? Or it was purely a more "efficient" way of consuming coffee since you were able to drink less because of the potency..? Obviously it might not have been enjoyable or useful to consume it, but I am curious about the side-effects.

    4. fraggle


      TheCupboard said:

      fraggle, you've mentioned that highly-caffeinated enriched coffee before.. Overall can you say the effects were enough to make you intoxicated from caffeine? Or it was purely a more "efficient" way of consuming coffee since you were able to drink less because of the potency..? Obviously it might not have been enjoyable or useful to consume it, but I am curious about the side-effects.

      Actually I was drinking it for a while because I liked the taste. It has an incredibly smooth, chocolatey flavour to it. Almost all coffee has a sharp bitter (sour?) taste to it that I don't find pleasant, and for a long time I wasn't a coffee drinker because of that. BBotE instead is smooth and doesn't have that sourness.

      In terms of the effects it's obviously very strong stuff. Personally I don't feel like I experienced really strong primary effects (the usual jitteriness, being "hyper", etc.) - some people get this in extremes. I had a colleague who tried it and said he could "see through time" for the next half an hour for example. But my most recent experience of drinking it has made me wary of trying it again for a while for secondary effects I was starting to suspect it may have been having - screwing with my energy levels and mood, and leaving me crashing hard later in the afternoon.

      If you're curious I highly recommend getting a bottle and sharing some with friends. It lasts for over a month so you can easily drink your way through it, especially if you're sharing it. Maybe start with a smaller bottle or get one of the sampler packs. If you're stuck choosing a variety then Kona is a good all-rounder.

  13. I've been on a kick lately listening to this stuff on Spotify. It's usually energetic type of music that makes menial work tasks more palatable. If you haven't tried it, I recommend it. The added bonus is how it draws WTF looks and inquiries from co-workers.

    1. Fonze


      I love a good flamenco guitar :) Never heard of bouzouki though, I'll have to look it up sometime.

  14. ...in Everything Else? It's like that forum has become a mosh pit for people looking for controversial crap to hash out with other stubborn forum members. Essentially, it's a forum culling ground for Losers and PH bait. We haven't solved the world's problems yet and I don't think they'll be solved by people flaming each other on a Doom forum. Keep it light-hearted, guys, geez.

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    2. Clonehunter


      The only way to get what you want is to become a human yourself
      Can you do that?

      My dear, sweet child, that's what I do
      It's what I live for
      To help unfortunate merfolk like yourself
      Poor souls with no one else to turn to

      I admit that in the past I've been a nasty
      They weren't kidding when they called me, well, a witch
      But you'll find that nowadays
      I've mended all my ways
      Repented, seen the light, and made a switch
      To this
      And I fortunately know a little magic
      It's a talent that I always have possessed
      And dear lady, please don't laugh
      I use it on behalf
      Of the miserable, the lonely, and depressed (Pathetic)

      Poor unfortunate souls
      In pain, in need
      This one longing to be thinner
      That one wants to get the girl
      And do I help them?
      Yes, indeed
      Those poor unfortunate souls
      So sad, so true
      They come flocking to my cauldron
      Crying, "Spells, Ursula, please!"
      And I help them
      Yes I do

      Now it's happened once or twice
      Someone couldn't pay the price
      And I'm afraid I had to rake 'em 'cross the coals
      Yes I've had the odd complaint
      But on the whole I've been a saint
      To those poor unfortunate souls

      Have we got a deal?
      If I become human, I'll never be with my father or sisters again
      But you'll have your man
      Life's full of tough choices, isn't it?
      Oh, and there is one more thing
      We haven't discussed the subject of payment
      But I don't have-
      I'm not asking much, just a token really, a trifle
      What I want from you is your voice
      But without my voice, how can I-
      You'll have your looks, your pretty face
      And don't underestimate the importance of body language, ha!

      The men up there don't like a lot of blabber
      They think a girl who gossips is a bore
      Yet on land it's much preferred for ladies not to say a word
      And after all dear, what is idle babble for?
      Come on, they're not all that impressed with conversation
      True gentlemen avoid it when they can
      But they dote and swoon and fawn
      On a lady who's withdrawn
      It's she who holds her tongue who gets a man

      Come on you poor unfortunate soul
      Go ahead
      Make your choice
      I'm a very busy woman and I haven't got all day
      It won't cost much
      Just your voice!
      You poor unfortunate soul
      It's sad but true
      If you want to cross the bridge, my sweet
      You've got the pay the toll
      Take a gulp and take a breath
      And go ahead and sign the scroll
      Flotsam, Jetsam, now I've got her, boys
      The boss is on a roll
      This poor unfortunate soul

      Beluga sevruga
      Come winds of the Caspian Sea
      Larengix glaucitis
      Et max laryngitis
      La voce to me

      Now, sing
      Aa-aa-aah, a-aa-aah
      Keep singing!
      Aa-aa-aah, a-aa-aah

    3. darknation


      Technician said:

      No, EE was always about politics and religion, often culminating in heated debate. Just search through its history. I don't know where you've been Job, only in the past year or so has the mood changed.

      Whelp, it comes down to a few things. There was always going to be a perfect storm of retards coming in on the back of doom 4, SJW morons reaching the peak of their powers and oldfags reacting as they usually do. Moderation style has been more hands on since the server switch IMHO.

      Normal service will probably be resumed once the D4 shitstorm has passed and ling gets bored of watching online fags doing and saying online fag things.

    4. Hellbent


      Piper Maru said:

      Is that Doomguy wrestling with a Mancubus?

      No, it's find a fold and f*** it.

  15. I had looked at pictures from the /newstuff and figured I'd dust off the old Doom2 folder and give things a try again. After downloading Doom Builder (which is better than ever, BTW), I found out that mapping is something you don't forget how to do, even if you're functionally retarded after a such a long time away.

    Anyway, my question is if any of you guys can recommend any good Doom 2 wads I can play to get re-immersed. I'm hoping for something with classic gameplay without any gimmicks or over-the-top visuals that detract from the level. I can only assume there's got to be a couple such maps that have been released since I last checked in. Thanks in advance.

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    2. Grazza


      Job said:

      EDIT: I am grateful and thankful for the life I have now...in case my statement sounded arrogant and unappreciative.

      No, it just sounded matter of fact, and gave the impression you have worked hard and got a fair reward.

    3. Sharessa


      Danarchy said:

      I lol'd, though I really should have. :(

      Whoops, I meant shouldn't have.

    4. Snakes


      Job said:

      Aside from getting back into Doom, I've been homebrewing for 4 years and have an $8,000 set up at home and a 6 tap kegerator (yeah, I guess I'm proud of that).

      That's pretty awesome, really. I've been planning on homebrewing in the future (when I have the money and the time), but sadly, just have to stick to the Doom thing for now.

  16. Since it's been a while, I figure I'd see how things are going here. What's the drama news these days? At the risk of sounding like a dick, every time I login again, years later, I figure the community will be withered away or something. Not so, apparently. Lots of dudes logged in, so props. Keep on Dooming/mapping/etc, guys.

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    2. Use


      Weren't you working on some PSX doom wad thing that failed? Also hi.

    3. Lizardcommando


      Hello again. I was wondering where you'd gone off to. Welcome back. :)

    4. Job


      IIRC, I stopped mapping after I was working on a huge level with retarded amounts of detail, like individual bricks, etc. The file crapped itself and all of my backups were corrupted. Sort of the last kick in the balls that discouraged me from continuing.

      Anyway, I might have to dig out my old Doom 2 wad and grab the latest version of Doom Builder. Not sure if I still have any "skills", since I forgot all the scripting and can hardly remember the textures by name like I used to. Shameful - makes me seem older than I am.

  17. All right. DW is still here and advances in Doom technology are still being made. That's great to see. I just like to pop in every 11 months or so to see what's going on. Did anything exciting happen that can't be learned from a quick visit to the news section?

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    2. Fletcher`


      I release a wad every two years. This month happened to be it.

    3. insertwackynamehere


      i just read this thread that Job posted so that I didn't have to post one of my own

      I'd assume after a year+ of mostly lurking that my obscenely wide margin of post helled threads compared to most members isn't so bad anymore.

    4. Bucket


      No, I think we've all done pretty well this year, aside from the odd troll account.

  18. Like the thread title says, I moved to North Dakota. My fiancee' was originally born here, grew up here and ended up in Wisconsin when her dad accepted a great job. Long story short, he got a better job and moved back, so she wanted to do the same and be close. Since I'm not terribly close to my family in Wisconsin, I agreed to move out west with her to the southeast corner of NoDak. Here's some stuff I learned during the whole process:

    1.) If you go out of your way to help your fiancee' keep close to her family, said family will pretty much turn bizarro and become total assholes.

    2.) Giving up a $30,000/yr. job out of college (with an English degree) isn't advisable.

    3.) Being overqualified for a job doesn't mean you're going to get it...on multiple occasions.

    4.) You don't always get to do work that relates to your degree (duh).

    5.) It can be hard to reconcile intellectual pursuits with the desire to "blow shit up" and using motor vehicles for redneck-like activities.

    6.) More to come, I'm sure.

    Even with the negatives it's still been an interesting life transition and I've had the opportunity to see and experience of a lot of things I wouldn't have otherwise. I'll save the trouble of someone mentioning that this thread is a candidate for "most boring thread ever LOL." I've had a few beers and because of that, posting a thread about a life transition period seemed like a decent idea.

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    2. Lamneth


      GGG said:

      So you moved solely because of your significant other... That pretty much voids your arguments.

      I believe the term here is "pussywhipped"

    3. Job


      Lamneth said:

      I believe the term here is "pussywhipped"

      Not quite. I've got well over a decade of experience using 'ol righty (and here's to many more), so that's not something that can be held above me. I figured the term was "sacrifice." Having been a veteran of many, many pussywhippings, I can tell you that this is not one of them.

      However, the poster that said me doing this for the sake of my significant other voids my arguments is right. Although it should be a selfless act, there's always a deep-seated belief that it's their fault for wanting something that takes you from what you're familiar with...and that it's their responsibility when you're not happy with acquiescing to their wishes. Luckily, I'm over that now.

      Ichor, I'll be sure to post in hyperbole about the cold here. Fortunately, in my experience Wisconsin is usually a lot more unpleasant during the winter. Now if I were in the Grand Forks or Turtle Lake region, I'd be seeing crap akin to what goes on near the arctic circle. For now, I'll make do with the 94°+ temps we've been having here.

    4. Grazza


      Job said:

      Now if I were in the Grand Forks or Turtle Lake region, I'd be seeing crap akin to what goes on near the arctic circle.

      Actually, you could go a lot further north than that and find places with less severe winters.

      January 2007 temperatures for Longyearbyen (78.2° N)

      January 2007 temperatures for Grand Forks, ND

  19. I like what you've done with the place.

    1. GGG


      God was right about you.
      Skills don't pay the bills. Get a job.
      Is Dickinson really a city or a codename for an incestual pedophile?
      Yes, the changes around here over the past few months have certainly spruced up the decor.

    2. DOOM Anomaly

      DOOM Anomaly

      Hi Job. :D What have you been shaking up to? :D

    3. Captain Red

      Captain Red

      Hey Job. How's tricks?

  20. In recognition of Toke's passing, I'd like to form Doomers Against Drunk Driving. Mother's can't have all the fun and air time. Who wants in?

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      Danarchy said:

      And to top it all off, it turns out the driver of the other car wasn't drunk at all. He was hopped up on Xanax. (source)

      So can GADD still stand now that it's last 2 letters don't mean anything?

    3. Bucket


      I suppose it could be Gamers against Dumbass Drivers; we could then go at those self-important cellphone pricks as well.

    4. Job


      Bucket said:

      I suppose it could be Gamers against Dumbass Drivers; we could then go at those self-important cellphone pricks as well.

      The best idea offered yet.

  21. A senior college student has one semester of school left. His major is in English, a generally useless field for making money but useful for underscoring some ability to communicate with other human beings. Though he could comfortably make it by the last semester this Fall, he would be forced to search for jobs when he graduates in December.

    If he does choose to finish the final semester and graduate in December, the best lead so far for a position as technical writer in Lexington Park, MD, which pays $29k per year. On the other hand, he could opt for a job that is local (the same town he currently lives in for school) that isn't releated to his field but offers growth and advancement that could end up in his field somewhat. This job happens to pay $32k per year.

    Given the information in this scenario, which is the best option for the student?

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    2. Pure Hellspawn

      Pure Hellspawn

      Get that degree. Experience is important, but having a degree is a must. High School isn't enough due to all the competition for jobs.

      My recommendation is to continue college and try and find some time that can be devoted to the job (not too much). That way, you can have both experience and the degree. See if you can do both at the same time.

      I go to a college that has a coop requirement, so you have to work for a year to get a degree (I am at RIT majoring in CS). Maybe you can find out if your college has a coop program available.

      However, if you do not have enough time for both college & work, I recommend college. It is important to have experience, but having a college degree is even more important, especially in today's competitive world.

      If you think you can be the next Bill Gates and make up something so good that you will be rich, then go for it! (Gates dropped out of Harvard) Not many people are like Bill Gates though...

    3. AndrewB


      Pure Hellspawn said:

      If you think you can be the next Bill Gates and make up something so good that you will be rich, then go for it! (Gates dropped out of Harvard) Not many people are like Bill Gates though...

      Of course you could play the lottery too.

    4. Pure Hellspawn

      Pure Hellspawn

      AndrewB said:

      Of course you could play the lottery too.

      I think the lottery is a good idea with one exception. Too many people fail to play responsibly and end up spending all they have. The lottery really benefits the government, since they sponsor it (and the lucky few who do hit it big).

  22. ...my computer was on the verge of death. It is now passed on, having served me well for three and a half years. On the bright side, I have a really neat new computer.

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    2. Bucket


      My dad's got a crapload of old PC's in a room because that's the only stuff his ham radio equipment is compatible with. I believe our old 8088 is still churning away in there...

    3. darknation



    4. MaTT [TiK]

      MaTT [TiK]

      leileilol said:

      my 486, p100 and even xt still live

      I still have a 286 here that worked last time I tried it (although it is now one of four unused computers stacked together to form a table for my third computer's monitor), and I'm pretty sure I still have a working 086 in the attic somewhere.

  23. I feel like an old man at 23, but finally, it's an excuse to legitimately drink as much as I usually do. Unfortunately, I have no worthwhile insights to offer, though I hope that since 23's my lucky number this year might be better than others (it already will be since I'm graduating after the Fall semester).

    Anyway, yay and stuff. Guiness and other beers, here I come.

  24. I remember not too long ago that Manc had needed help with recovering data off of his borked HDD and the generous outpouring from the members of this forum was very impressive to say the least. Even though I can't offer what he can in terms of webhosting, I've come across a hard time myself and am calling on you for help.

    Recently, I had some pain in my farthest-back lower-left molar and had to go in to the dentist to have it looked at. When I finally went, the dentist found a good deal of tooth-related issues (a few good-sized chips, not having had a cleaning in four years due to poverty and now several new cavities due to lack of cleaning...I am willing to post pics as proof of this). So after going to the dentist the past couple days, I discoved I have all the listed stuff wrong that needs to be fixed. But it's going to cost $418 alone for the chips to be fixed (one of the two is on my top left incisor and will require a pin). I just did the cleaning today to the tune of $160 because xrays were required and next Wednesday is the appointment when I'm getting those chips fixed. When I go at that time, I'll get an estimate for my 3 cavities, which could cost between $150 and $175 to fix - I'm not sure yet.

    I'm hardly well-off enough to pay for the insurance for this, much less pay for the procedures, but it's always been my dream to get my teeth fixed and here's my chance (the rates are pretty cheap; I've checked around the area I live in). What I'm asking is if anyone who reads this board will be willing donate any money to help me with this expense, I'd be very thankful. I'll either have to set up a paypall account or if anyone is willing to mail a check or money order, that would be awesome. I want to remind you that I will make an effort to send some sort of gift or prizes to whoever is willing to help (I'm not sure what yet). Anything that you can offer would be appreciated beyond what I am able write here. Thanks everyone, this means the world to me.

    EDIT: My appointment for the chipped tooth repair will be this coming Wednesday, the 12th.

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    2. myk


      Grazza said:
      You guys with large dental bills might look into getting the work done abroad.

      In Job's case a plane ticket would already make it more expensive, unless you can get something like that in Canada or Mexico. Anyone else in the Americas (except Canadians who have a decent healthcare system anyway) would likely go to Cuba.

    3. Use


      Grazza said:

      Personally, I avoid large dental bills by simply not going to the dentist. :)

      I haven't been to a dentist once in my life. My teeth are in better condition than anyone I know...who all goto the dentist. Strange? Not really. If a dentist did his job properly he would go out of business. The money is in repeat visitors, so drill some holes, make some cavaties, send your kids to college!

    4. Job


      I appreciate your offer, Manc. It means a lot. After a lot of thought, I realize that it'd be best to just try to ford this one on my own. Maybe I can try to haggle them into a payment plan, even if they didn't seem willing to do that already, it's still worth a shot. I've got to try and bail myself out on my own. My responsibilities shouldn't compel me to ask you guys for help, it's not really right or fair. So thanks again everyone, I'll let you know how this turns out.